TPE Scottish Route

[Toby Atkinson]

Hello, has the MIA to Scotland services been really cut back on transpennine? The last service from MIA is 1810 which seems really early. I’m sure there used to be more services

 

[JonathanH]

Hello, has the MIA to Scotland services been really cut back on transpennine? The last service from MIA is 1810 which seems really early. I’m sure there used to be more services

Yes, there used to be more services - reliability of 397s, staff availability and a recognition that there is no need to provide 3tph in every hour between Preston and Scotland all a factor.

Later connections are available at Preston.

 

[route101]

The Scottish TPE service has been reduced for nearly 2 years.

 

[LittleAH]

Yes, there used to be more services - reliability of 397s, staff availability and a recognition that there is no need to provide 3tph in every hour between Preston and Scotland all a factor.

Later connections are available at Preston.

Given the timetable will return to pre-covid levels in December, there's been no recognition of what you claim.

 

[glasgowniteowl]

Given the timetable will return to pre-covid levels in December, there's been no recognition of what you claim.

Not sure if it's a full return to pre covid levels, real time trains seems to be missing at least 1 Liverpool service from Glasgow and a couple of the later services both ways from Glasgow/Edinburgh to Manchester but certainly most services reinstated from Glasgow

 

[Watershed]

Not sure if it's a full return to pre covid levels, real time trains seems to be missing at least 1 Liverpool service from Glasgow and a couple of the later services both ways from Glasgow/Edinburgh to Manchester but certainly most services reinstated from Glasgow

It's not a full return to the pre-Covid timetable. As you say, the Liverpool-Glasgow service is still missing one circuit (meaning there are 2 instead of 4 trains per day), and quite a few of the first and last trains have been culled. But the daytime frequency on the 'traditional' route, Manchester Airport to Glasgow/Edinburgh, returns to 1tph alternating between the two.

It's a step in the right direction although it has certainly taken time to get there.

 

[Class 170101]

A late train from Manchester to Carlisle and a morning return is missing too.

 

[driver9000]

A late train from Manchester to Carlisle and a morning return is missing too.

Do you mean the one that arrived at Carlisle in the early hours and left around 05:45? If so that was meant to be in the December 2019 timetable but never ran. The morning path picks up at Oxenholme as the 06:26 to Liverpool.

The 05:57 Carlisle to Edinburgh was always very lightly loaded in the short time it ran before the stripped out emergency timetable kicked in with the first lockdown.

 

[The Bear]

Do you mean the one that arrived at Carlisle in the early hours and left around 05:45? If so that was meant to be in the December 2019 timetable but never ran. The morning path picks up at Oxenholme as the 06:26 to Liverpool.

The 05:57 Carlisle to Edinburgh was always very lightly loaded in the short time it ran before the stripped out emergency timetable kicked in with the first lockdown.

Yes, 1M89 06:26 Oxenholme-Liverpool was originally planned to have started from Carlisle formed off a 23:15 Man Airport-Carlisle.
After the plan had to be changed, the 23:15 ex Man Airport then terminated at Preston with the unit stabling until running empty to Oxenholme the next morning for 1M89.

The 05:57 Carlisle-Edinburgh was formed from a unit which ran empty from Preston.

Also still missing are the 22:12 Edinburgh-Manchester (which was introduced from May 2018 timetable) and the 21:20ish Glasgow-Preston.

 

[Snow1964]

TPE is running additional train from Manchester airport to Glasgow COP26 summit in morning at 07:10 with return at 19:08 on various days over 3 weeks

Quite a rarity these days for long distance extras to be run

Train operator TransPennine Express (TPE) has announced additional weekend services on its Anglo-Scottish route to help get attendees to and from the COP26 summit in Glasgow.

Weekend train services are expected to be busier than usual with people travelling to and from the summit and TPE will be running additional services on the Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays and Mondays over the three weekends of the COP26 summit, operating between Friday 29 October to Monday 15 November. The additional services are:

• 0710 Manchester Airport to Glasgow Central (0910 on Sundays)

• 1908 Glasgow Central to Manchester Airport

All of these services will call at Lockerbie and Motherwell in Scotland as well as Carlisle, Penrith, Lancaster, Preston, Manchester Oxford Road and Manchester Piccadilly in England. Customers using these services are reminded that a face covering must be worn on board train services and at stations in Scotland, unless exempt, and are encouraged to be worn on all journeys throughout.

Additional rail services introduced by TransPennine Express for the COP26 Summit

Train operator TransPennine

www.firstgroupplc.com

 

[ItsGrimUpNorth]

That proposed 2315 from Airport that never got started really would’ve been a good service, assuming it left Picc around 2330.

Would’ve made an attractive option for people from Cumbria who use Manc Airport to have a late train, as well as folk who go to gigs, football matches and the like in central Manc!

I used the late one from Edinburgh to Manc Airport from Carlisle several times for early morning flights, the little bit of hanging around in the early hours made up for any hassle of having to drive down, park etc. Was always a few folk using it too.

 

[route101]

Miss the 1915 from Manchester Airport to Glasgow. Of course you can change at Wigan or Preston.

 

[Scotrail314209]

TPE is running additional train from Manchester airport to Glasgow COP26 summit in morning at 07:10 with return at 19:08 on various days over 3 weeks

Quite a rarity these days for long distance extras to be run

Additional rail services introduced by TransPennine Express for the COP26 Summit

Train operator TransPennine

www.firstgroupplc.com

The 1908 was always a Manchester service pre COVID, so it looks like both may have been services that haven’t been reinstated, hence why it was so easy to bring them back.

 

[The Bear]

That proposed 2315 from Airport that never got started really would’ve been a good service, assuming it left Picc around 2330.

Would’ve made an attractive option for people from Cumbria who use Manc Airport to have a late train, as well as folk who go to gigs, football matches and the like in central Manc!

I used the late one from Edinburgh to Manc Airport from Carlisle several times for early morning flights, the little bit of hanging around in the early hours made up for any hassle of having to drive down, park etc. Was always a few folk using it too.

I believe the issue with the 23:15 ex-Man Airport running north of Preston and stopping patterns of the other nighttime TPE services on the northern WCML that have been introduced since May2018, is these services were running outside the opening hours for the 3 stations between Preston & Carlisle and presumably TPE aren't willing to foot the bill for keeping them open for these services to call.