Personally I think the 1 should be tridents as it is a busy route.
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ValleyLines142
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Very much so.
ValleyLines142
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Reports coming in that E200 37010 has gone up in flames. Any evidence of this?
Marcus Fryer
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According to the bus tracker it seems to have died in Stroud just after midday on Saturday (16th October).
ValleyLines142
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Indeed.
Also 18090 and 37237 have transferred to Stroud from Gloucester and Cheltenham respectively.
SouthEastBuses
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I will be riding onboard the new YT21 Scania E400 MMCs on the 10 this Saturday. Are they good buses?
And I will be timelapsing the entire length of the following routes: 853, 10, 94. Are these routes good?
And I will be timelapsing the entire length of the following routes: 853, 10, 94. Are these routes good?
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TheGrandWazoo
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Depends what you mean by good routes?
853 is scenic. 94 is a standard interurban dash but fairly dull. 10 is distinctly dreary being essentially an urban service that transcends the gap between the Cheltenham and Gloucester suburbs
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If you’re looking at scenery wouldn’t bother with the 10 it’s just housing estates nothing nice to look at really. If you’re in Cheltenham best bet is the 66 to Stonehouse which is much more scenic through Painswick and the Stanleys. Also the 51 towards Swindon. If you’re in Gloucester try a Forest route for example the 24 to Cinderford, that’s very nice and scenic.
TheGrandWazoo
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Agree with all that but to clarify, the 51 from Cheltenham to Cirencester is the nice bit. It’s a bit uninspiring onward to Swindon.
Agree on Forest routes with 24 to Cinderford, 22 to Coleford and then the 23 back via Lydney being a very nice run out
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I'd like to do the 33 to Hereford at some point.
Are you sure about 18090? I haven't heard this myself and am convinced I saw it on a Newent School run this morning.
I would, personally, highly recommend the 23 from Gloucester to Coleford. Great views and normally good allocation in the form of a Scania Enviro 400. Other scenic routes you might like include the 24 (although very long and often poor allocation), 32/132 and the 33 which I personally like.
In other news, Gloucester ADL Enviro 300s 27701-27705 are to be exchanged with Banbury Scania Enviro 300s 28742-28746. The reasoning behind this according to engineers is to make maintenance easier. Gloucester engineering have vast experience with Scanias.
ValleyLines142
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Yes, saw it coming into Gloucester on the 63 yesterday.
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Thanks for the advice!
Yes, I've heard about 27842-27846 going to Gloucester. Does that mean that 27701-27705 will be refurbished to Gold spec for use on the S4?
Yes, I've heard about 27842-27846 going to Gloucester. Does that mean that 27701-27705 will be refurbished to Gold spec for use on the S4?
goldisgood
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Local reports from the Oxford Chiltern Bus Page suggest that 27701-27705 will be used mainly on the 500 and Banbury town services, with Enviro 200 MMCs 37401-37405 used on the S4 which will see the route downgraded from Gold. I suspect this may also help with meeting Euro 6 targets in Oxford, but I'm not sure what exactly the targets are at the moment.
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I think 28742-28746 are Euro 6, they have the unusual K250UB chassis not to mention they're much quieter than other Scania E300s I've been on
TheGrandWazoo
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Is there such a thing as Gold spec now anyway? Doesn’t look like a great swap tbh. Tough on the 500 which is having vehicles twice the age.
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Get on the 10 in Tuffley around 15:00 on a school day and the journey will be anything but dreary with the Beaufort kids!!
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Agreed, whilst I understand swap for standardisation, they could have swapped the Scanias with the SN69 E200 MMCs instead
Aston
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I wouldn't bother, as other people have said 23/24 and other forest routes are good, I would also like to suggest the 351 - almost always e200 but that's because it goes round a car park, many tight roads matched with faster 50mph ones and a 3 point turn all in around 1 hour, I'm not sure how you would do a timelapse on a single decker but it's good fun to ride, especially with a good driver. Obviously E200s are awful.
cnjb8
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They are K230UBs, no K250s were ever built with an ADL body
Glosbusspotter
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Can confirm it has toasted itself
Stagecoach YX63 ZTH’s engine explodes!
It was being driven to Cirencester out of service and then it all of a sudden stopped and broke down. There was a smoky scent in the engine, and thankfully the driver escaped the bus before it erupted in flames at the engine. In the end no one was hurt
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The aftermath of the interior of now burnt Stagecoach YX63 ZTH
Looks like the inside of a bus being scrapped to be honest
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Close up on the engine, which is in flames.
The engine probably exploded unexpectedly
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GusB
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Can confirm it has toasted itself
Stagecoach YX63 ZTH’s engine explodes!
It was being driven to Cirencester out of service and then it all of a sudden stopped and broke down. There was a smoky scent in the engine, and thankfully the driver escaped the bus before it erupted in flames at the engine. In the end no one was hurtThe aftermath of the interior of now burnt Stagecoach YX63 ZTH
Looks like the inside of a bus being scrapped to be honestClose up on the engine, which is in flames.
The engine probably exploded unexpectedly
Ach, that'll be fixed up and back on the road in no time!
Looking at the height of those flames, it could well have resulted in the trees going up as well. I hope everyone got off safely.
Glosbusspotter
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You can see in this shot some on the trees look quite charredAch, that'll be fixed up and back on the road in no time!
Looking at the height of those flames, it could well have resulted in the trees going up as well. I hope everyone got off safely.
What the back looks like after the engine exploded
I took a picture of this one on the 67 on Thursday, I didn’t know that’ll be the only snap I’ll get of this one
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I went on 15370 yesterday and unexpectedly got kickdown! They are pretty good buses actually good choice by Stagecoach West
SouthEastBuses
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Writing this onboard a 10 (bus 15350) as I speak.
10 was definetly a good route, a nice mix of both rural and urban environments. And the 21 reg Scanias, at least 15350, are definetly good, with kickdown too!
853 also is lovely, I had bus 28688.
Let's see what the 94 is like this afternoon
10 was definetly a good route, a nice mix of both rural and urban environments. And the 21 reg Scanias, at least 15350, are definetly good, with kickdown too!
853 also is lovely, I had bus 28688.
Let's see what the 94 is like this afternoon
18090 now in the naughty compound at Gloucester depot.
An interesting few weeks at Stagecoach West have just passed. There are still mass cancellations on a daily basis for most depots, despite service changes at some of these depots.
Gloucester's recently relaunched service 10 is regularly being cancelled, even under its new every 15 minutes frequency. It means the bus behind it runs late as a result of taking two bus loads, meaning there is an even bigger gap in the service. I could all but promise that each day next week there will be two service 10s running together, with a 40 minute+ gap to the bus in front.
I find it fascinating that Stagecoach haven't made more changes. I'm sure the travelling public would much prefer a less frequent bus that will turn up rather than one that wont. Gloucester routes 1, 10 & 12 still see an every 20 minute Sunday service. Necessary? Service 8 still runs every 15 minutes at peak, with 2 vehicles having to come on to support that. Necessary?
Gloucester's recently relaunched service 10 is regularly being cancelled, even under its new every 15 minutes frequency. It means the bus behind it runs late as a result of taking two bus loads, meaning there is an even bigger gap in the service. I could all but promise that each day next week there will be two service 10s running together, with a 40 minute+ gap to the bus in front.
I find it fascinating that Stagecoach haven't made more changes. I'm sure the travelling public would much prefer a less frequent bus that will turn up rather than one that wont. Gloucester routes 1, 10 & 12 still see an every 20 minute Sunday service. Necessary? Service 8 still runs every 15 minutes at peak, with 2 vehicles having to come on to support that. Necessary?
If service 8 was dropped to every 30 minutes, half the people who used it might well think bu999er this, I’m jumping in the car. Peak time is exactly the time you need the higher frequency.
i visited Gloucester last week and whilst walking through the bus station heard many people moaning about 2 buses in a row being cancelled, not sure if it was 97/8 or the Stroud from the stands next door, either way, sounds like they are struggling to find drivers and as a result are losing passengers.
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I do remember that my 94 bus was about 20 minutes late, and thanks to that, I missed the last 853 of the day that would have taken me back home to Oxford, meaning that I had to get the train on the way back.
My 10 was also about 15 minutes late. In fact, the bus I had (15350) was running ahead of 15352 all the time!
CTP6305
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Hello, totally unrelated but I have a question for the locals in Cheltenham and Gloucester. I figured this would be a good place to ask
Would any of you happen to know how come Gloucester's MMC for the 10 ended up being the Scania chassis instead of ADL? It shocked me given that for 3 years, Stagecoach said no to new Scanias due to a dispute with Scania over e-Fans or something like that. That's why my local (S6) got the ADL MMCs instead of the 2nd batch of Gold Scania MMCs we were supposed to receive at Swindon. Had we got them as planned, they'd have been numbered 15350-15363, bumping up your Gloucester ones to 15364-15384! At least I think that's how they'd be numbered. And of course, there'd be no 10982-10996 at West. An interesting "what if?" scenario for us all too
Would any of you happen to know how come Gloucester's MMC for the 10 ended up being the Scania chassis instead of ADL? It shocked me given that for 3 years, Stagecoach said no to new Scanias due to a dispute with Scania over e-Fans or something like that. That's why my local (S6) got the ADL MMCs instead of the 2nd batch of Gold Scania MMCs we were supposed to receive at Swindon. Had we got them as planned, they'd have been numbered 15350-15363, bumping up your Gloucester ones to 15364-15384! At least I think that's how they'd be numbered. And of course, there'd be no 10982-10996 at West. An interesting "what if?" scenario for us all too