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Trainee Train Driver - Heathrow Express (Talent Pool) 08/07/2022

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Who are we?

GWR is the proud custodian of Brunel's railway - one of the most prestigious networks in the world. We have some of the newest trains in the country and exciting plans to extend our services. With more than one hundred million passenger journeys each year, we carry people to over 275 stations in the South West, from Cornwall and South Wales to London, passing through beautiful country and some of the UK's top tourist destinations.

We are transforming the way people think about train travel, empowering our team of over 6,000 people from all different backgrounds to make it a great experience for our customers. Together, we will revalue rail as a very special way to travel – relaxing, fast, efficient, friendly and fun.

About the role?

Our Heathrow Express driver role is a premium Heathrow service, for those passionate about customer service, who love to drive the most up to date trains using modern in-cab signalling

Our Train Drivers play a crucial role in setting a new standard for rail which is focused on creating a relaxed, fast, efficient, and fun experience for our passengers. In addition to driving our customers between Paddington and Heathrow airport, you will be giving amazing customer service, while following the correct procedures and working with colleagues to ensure our services runs efficiently.

Our Trainee Driver programme requires hard work, a commitment to an intensive period of training and exceptional attention to detail but offers a rewarding career with the opportunity to be part of the changing future of travel. There will be assessments throughout your training period, both practical and academic, which will give you all the tools and support you need to progress through to a Qualified Driver.

About You?

If you are safety focused, able to concentrate for long periods of time, can follow strict instructions/procedures and have a passion for delivering great service this could be the career for you.

No specific previous experience is required, we have colleagues that have successfully progressed through our trainee programme that have joined us from many different backgrounds. Most importantly it's about your ability to deliver great service, commitment to an intensive training programme, communication and team working skills.

We value diversity and have a strategy that sets out our approach to ensure we broaden our appeal to both our customers and colleagues. Making GWR an inclusive place to work is essential for us to deliver a railway that is inclusive for customers.

Do you want the best seat in the train?

Drive your career forward with our HEX Trainee Driver role.

This could be your window for a new career!

Apply now, to be in with a chance of becoming one of our apprentice HEX Trainee Drivers, with a great training salary of £26,000, rising to £55,500 when fully qualified!

Additional Information?

Safety and our Passengers are at the heart of everything we do in GWR and to ensure our Trainees have the aptitude and passion to drive this, through the application process, which involves ability testing and interviews which measure key requirements of the role.

There are a few essentials to consider before applying:

  • Are you over 21 years of age? This is a requirement to be accepted on to the programme
  • Do you live within 60 minutes commuting distance of Paddington Station? For safety reasons you must live within this maximum commuting time to the job location and be able to arrive for a variety of shifts, including weekends and nights which will have varying start and finish times
  • If successful any offer of employment is subject to a full driver medical which includes passing hearing, sight, and colour vision tests (using the Ishihara plates)
We have opportunities for Trainee Train Drivers in Heathrow Express Paddington, to join our Talent Pool for 2022/2023 and later.

If your application is successful and you pass the assessment process, you will be placed in a Talent Pool pending available vacancies in 2022/23 and later in line with our Recruitment Policy

The Reward?

As well as a great team environment and comprehensive training, all GWR colleagues enjoy a range of benefits including on-going development, defined benefit pension scheme, free rail travel across the GWR network for you and your family, company-sponsored health care plan, discounted shopping and gym membership and an employee assistance programme.

We all belong at GWR. This is our vision for providing an inclusive environment for all our colleagues, ensuring all candidates have an equal opportunity to access meaningful employment.

We value our differences such as age, gender, LGBTQIA, ethnicity, religion and disability. We maintain zero tolerance towards any form of prejudice towards our colleagues, customers and future talent.

We celebrate and encourage diversity of thought, progressive ways of working and seeing all our colleagues grow and thrive.

We review all roles and job descriptions to ensure they are accessible and, where possible, we support and provide flexible working options.

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Anyone know how long the training lasts? Does the pay go up in increments?
 

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Anyone know how long the training lasts? Does the pay go up in increments?
The rules part is the same as other driving roles but the handling is much shorter as it’s only a 20min route with 1 traction .. I think around 80-100 hours against 250 for the GWR mainline roles.
 

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The rules part is the same as other driving roles but the handling is much shorter as it’s only a 20min route with 1 traction .. I think around 80-100 hours against 250 for the GWR mainline roles.

If you were to do this role for a few years, could you then just move across to another GWR depot and do more traction and route learning? Or would you need to do anything else?
 

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Training should be around 8months

Pay does not go up incrementally

After 2 years you can transfer to another GWR depot
 

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If you were to do this role for a few years, could you then just move across to another GWR depot and do more traction and route learning? Or would you need to do anything else?
People do move across to GWR but I don’t think it’s a given … I think there has to be vacancies/ a recruitment on the depot you want to move too and then you would need to apply ?
 
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The rules part is the same as other driving roles but the handling is much shorter as it’s only a 20min route with 1 traction .. I think around 80-100 hours against 250 for the GWR mainline roles.

There is a course that's just started and it seems that its about 3 months rather than around 5 months for the mainline course.
 

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After serving 2yrs productive-Qualified, you can PT&R to another depot. That is subject to a vacancy being available at the chosen depot.
Also the move can take longer now as there are other drivers on the lists. (Both Hex and GWR)

Since harmonisation, moves are not as common. So depots are retaining drivers better than pre-harmonisation.

Vacancy lines at Paddington have been shrunk, as the depot is now at capacity. (Few current trainees will fill the remaining spare lines)
 
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Is this not a Mainline Course then, considering the route and traction used? :s

No apparently not. I'm not entirely sure what had been removed but the Absolute Block part has been for example. As for the traction, I'm not sure why that would make any difference?
 

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After serving 2yrs productive-Qualified, you can PT&R to another depot. That is subject to a vacancy being available at the chosen depot.
Also the move can take longer now as there are other drivers on the lists. (Both Hex and GWR)

Since harmonisation, moves are not as common. So depots are retaining drivers better than pre-harmonisation.

Vacancy lines at Paddington have been shrunk, as the depot is now at capacity. (Few current trainees will fill the remaining spare lines)
Thank you!

No apparently not. I'm not entirely sure what had been removed but the Absolute Block part has been for example. As for the traction, I'm not sure why that would make any difference?

Well I mean they use class 387’s on main lines out of Paddington to Heathrow. I wasn’t sure how it wouldn’t be a full Mainline course.
 

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No apparently not. I'm not entirely sure what had been removed but the Absolute Block part has been for example. As for the traction, I'm not sure why that would make any difference?

Correct. They also have to learn DC module (as this gets added to the license counterpart) however this would be depot specific as far as I’m aware. For instance, transferring to Reading or Padd (GWR)
Plus they get an update on token/single line working.

Everything else is covered on a traction course, including a refresh on AC module and ATP (if you sign 800)
 

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Correct. They also have to learn DC module (as this gets added to the license counterpart) however this would be depot specific as far as I’m aware. For instance, transferring to Reading or Padd (GWR)
Plus they get an update on token/single line working.

Everything else is covered on a traction course, including a refresh on AC module and ATP (if you sign 800)
Seems strange it’s not a full mainline course, since the vacancy is a mainline driver one. However, it does seem sensible too I guess, if the stuff you don’t need is taken out, such as AB etc.

As far as I’m aware, DC is part of the mainline course regardless of where you’re based or the routes you’re going to be travelling over, in the same way AC is these days too.

I suppose it’s best practice to learn all modules including token working and AB etc for if you were to transfer elsewhere, but these areas are few and far between in the grand scheme of things, and the amount of it in the rules course does seem a bit OTT.
 

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Might as well throw my hat in the ring. Don’t understand how anyone fails the initial sift and passing the easy SJT etc. Best of luck all of those applying.
 

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Might as well throw my hat in the ring. Don’t understand how anyone fails the initial sift and passing the easy SJT etc. Best of luck all of those applying.
That’s the calm before the storm :D

Can’t find the vacancy on the website, but the link still works…I know it was advertised internally, but strange I can’t see it externally?
 
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Seems strange it’s not a full mainline course, since the vacancy is a mainline driver one. However, it does seem sensible too I guess, if the stuff you don’t need is taken out, such as AB etc.

As far as I’m aware, DC is part of the mainline course regardless of where you’re based or the routes you’re going to be travelling over, in the same way AC is these days too.

I suppose it’s best practice to learn all modules including token working and AB etc for if you were to transfer elsewhere, but these areas are few and far between in the grand scheme of things, and the amount of it in the rules course does seem a bit OTT.

Well the instructor that told me that they were going to run a course seemed to think it would be a Mainline one, but obviously things changed. I suspect money was part of that, but also practical issues. I mean what's the point in learning about working a single line when you'll never do it as a HeX driver?
 

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Well the instructor that told me that they were going to run a course seemed to think it would be a Mainline one, but obviously things changed. I suspect money was part of that, but also practical issues. I mean what's the point in learning about working a single line when you'll never do it as a HeX driver?
That’s true I guess…..although I suppose they’ll be all over splitting distant signals. I was pummelled with them and I’ll never see an:D

I guess being a TOC in its own right (of sorts) is different for say GWR drivers learning everything including AB and SLW etc, as we could transfer within the business to a location which has AB and the like? I know technically HEX is under GWR, so the transfer process will likely be the same, but they’re still a TOC on their own?
 

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Unless the training has changed for them? I’m going off guys that have moved from HX to GWR.
It’s likely the training is standardised now. So they probably do the full course a GWR driver will do. Including AC/DC and absolute block. However once learnt, come rules day you’re only assessed on what’s applicable. I know Oxford drivers are assessed AB on rules day.
Hopefully the good benefit being GWR-HX, you don’t need to learn every flipping signal number during your route learning! :lol:
 
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Unless the training has changed for them? I’m going off guys that have moved from HX to GWR.
It’s likely the training is standardised now. So they probably do the full course a GWR driver will do. Including AC/DC and absolute block. However once learnt, come rules day you’re only assessed on what’s applicable. I know Oxford drivers are assessed AB on rules day.
Hopefully the good benefit being GWR-HX, you don’t need to learn every flipping signal number during your route learning! :lol:

Do you mean transferring to GWR from HeX? I'm not sure if they have to do the full course or a conversion course - it would seem a bit of a pain to have do the former!
 

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Do you mean transferring to GWR from HeX? I'm not sure if they have to do the full course or a conversion course - it would seem a bit of a pain to have do the former!

In rules they don’t cover level crossing or AB. So it’s more of a conversion for them. (Hex)

When a driver starts GWR, (mainline)
They cover everything. If a driver goes on a 387/800 conversion course then a refresh and re-assessment of AC is done.
 
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In rules they don’t cover level crossing or AB. So it’s more of a conversion for them. (Hex)

When a driver starts GWR, (mainline)
They cover everything. If a driver goes on a 387/800 conversion course then a refresh and re-assessment of AC is done.

Yep I've just done the mainline and traction courses - i was curious as to what a HeX to GWR driver would do. Having bumped into a few HeX drivers at Reading recently, they seem quite happy with their lot!
 

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Apply now, to be in with a chance of becoming one of our apprentice HEX Trainee Drivers, with a great training salary of £26,000, rising to £55,500 when fully qualified!
 

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I'm a bit confused with the mentions of different training and shorter courses. I see you can move depots after 2 years...

but does the training here mean you are considered as a "Qualified Train Driver" if you were to apply for such jobs at other TOCs?
 

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Well the instructor that told me that they were going to run a course seemed to think it would be a Mainline one, but obviously things changed. I suspect money was part of that, but also practical issues. I mean what's the point in learning about working a single line when you'll never do it as a HeX driver?

Single line working during a disruptive scenario - for instance some degraded working in the tunnels.

Think there’s some confusion about what is meant by “Mainline course”; evidently some bits will be shorter than others due to running on a specific route only and aspects are not relevant to a HeX driver that doesn’t go further than West Drayton (Units from Reading driven ECS being taken by Reading Drivers). But otherwise it’s a standard course to my knowledge.
 

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Single line working during a disruptive scenario - for instance some degraded working in the tunnels
Exactly that
does the training here mean you are considered as a "Qualified Train Driver" if you were to apply for such jobs at other TOCs?
Yes it does
I know technically HEX is under GWR, so the transfer process will likely be the same, but they’re still a TOC on their own?
HEX is technically still a TOC although they don't run a single train. Drivers however have nothing to do with HEX as a TOC and they are GWR drivers (although of course they don't drive anything other than HEX).
I'm not sure if they have to do the full course or a conversion course - it would seem a bit of a pain to have do the former!
It'll be sort of a conversation course, just with a need of covering a bit more than if you're coming from any other TOC.
 
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