Maybe it’s an SJT
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Chiltern Railways - Apprentice Train Drivers - Multiple Locations (26/01/23)
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Maybe it’s an SJT
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Scrambled Eggs
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Received the second questionnaire. It will be further questions as you can tell by the submission closing date!
Yeah I think it’s a follow up email, I did think it was a mistake but clearly not
atruetennisfan
Member
Cool. Thank you.
Sorry. The initial sifting process can be quite brutal sometimes just to get the numbers down to a manageable number of applicants. I think in a few years we'll have to live directly across the road to the station being applied for to be considered.
Keep going my friend, you'll get there. I don't know many people who get through quickly.
TD2018
Member
I have applied to one depot so I doubt its identical. It will be something completely different.
12LDA28C
Established Member
Why were you declined many times? Were you told the reason? I assume you did actually live within 45 minutes travel of your chosen Depot, etc?
Cool. Thank you.
Sorry. The initial sifting process can be quite brutal sometimes just to get the numbers down to a manageable number of applicants. I think in a few years we'll have to live directly across the road to the station being applied for to be considered.
Keep going my friend, you'll get there. I don't know many people who get through quickly.
Do you have knowledge of how exactly the initial sift is carried out? Surely it's just people who don't meet the criteria as clearly stated in the job advert?
silexa
Member
Secondary sift through questionnaire is received and done, can confirm it’s not the same as the first questionnaire it just starts off the same. Was quite interesting to do.
Guessing it’s situational questions? I remember doing one for WMT, relatively straight forward multi choice questions
I've been declined by pretty much every TOC/FOC. I don't understand exactly why.
I apply and live within the criteria. 1hr or 45min depending on the criteria.
I've even though it could be my CV and changed it up. I'm not really sure the reason behind it. I do a similar role with my current job. However, still get declined. I just keep on trying. Eventually I'll have some luck... Hopefully!
I managed to get past with a FOC and did the OPC exams. Passed everything at enchanted level including MMI. Just didn't get past the DMI unfortunately.
But I'll just keep going and trying until I get another chance elsewhere.
That's why I tell everyone to keep their head up.
That sounds like a nightmare, the OPC and MMI is the hardest part it seems, and yet you’ve proved yourself and can’t get over that last hurdle which is probably the easiest part? Good luck!
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Just want to let you and everyone know. It's not as scary as it seems. The OPC exams are hard BUT they aren't as hard as I've read on here. I just went in with a clear mind and the mindset of 'If it's meant to be, it will be' and it paid off massively as I wasn't nervous for any exam.
MMI is all about making sure you answer the question and explain what's necessary only. Don't muddle yourself around the question as then you move away from what is actually necessary.
Good luck to everyone!
atruetennisfan
Member
Yes, I was referring to the criteria. It seems that the restrictions seem to get tighter and tighter. Completely understandable given the number of applicants.
If you’ve passed the OPC tests already inc the MMI and are only dropping off at the DMI state then I would assume that is where the issue is (sorry for stating the obvious). It sounds like you just need to tidy up on your responses to to the DMI questions. Whilst the OPC is difficult - It’s only difficult to pass if you’re not suited to the role - Otherwise, someone like you who did pass it should be very much suited to the role of a train driver and if it’s just the DMI then it’s simply a case of continued practice and going over different possible scenarios for interview questions. The DMI can vary from between each TOC. Some are casual, others are more structured. Some last 30 mins others can be much longer. So they can sometimes be tricky to prepare for. Good luck, keep doing what you’re doing and I’m sure you’ll get there.
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Scrambled Eggs
Member
Did you get the second questionnaire?
atruetennisfan
Member
Not yet. Waiting patiently with bated breath.
I assume you got yours through? I expect it's an SJE type questionnaire but maybe you can confirm.
Scrambled Eggs
Member
Yes I got mine through. I plan to attempt it over the weekend with more time free. According to Silexa - they said it was quite interesting. I’m not sure how to take that. If logic prevails - it will be more detailed questions.Not yet. Waiting patiently with bated breath.
I assume you got yours through? I expect it's an SJE type questionnaire but maybe you can confirm.
atruetennisfan
Member
DB website is also stating App in Progress so they probably haven't gotten around to it yet.Not yet. Waiting patiently with bated breath.
I assume you got yours through? I expect it's an SJE type questionnaire but maybe you can confirm.
12LDA28C
Established Member
I don't believe this is the case. If you answer all the questions to the best of your ability and live within the required distance of your chosen Depot then you would not be rejected at the initial sift and would progress to the next stage, it's as simple as that.
I assume you've applied for Marylebone?
atruetennisfan
Member
Maybe it's just my perception.
Yes, and Aylesbury. No response yet but it's always a bit of a waiting game with TOC's. How's your application?
Agreed with this, I find it strange people have been told they are unsuccessful AFTER the first questionnaire. If I recall correctly It’s not like there were questions you could get wrong. The only thing I can see people getting rejected on is if you say you are over 45 mins from the chosen depot.
12LDA28C
Established Member
I'm not applying myself.
You'd think that would be quite straightforward, wouldn't you?
atruetennisfan
Member
If I may ask, are you already a train driver or do you already work on the Railways?
12LDA28C
Established Member
Already a qualified driver
Scrambled Eggs
Member
Good luck with your progression.
atruetennisfan
Member
Thank you.
Ah, I see. Awesome. Happy with your career choice? Also, are you passenger or freight? I’m very much looking forward to becoming a driver some day. Hopefully I’ll get a role. Thank you for the support.
12LDA28C
Established Member
Been at Chiltern for many years. I wish you every success with your application, I believe you might hear something next week, potentially.
atruetennisfan
Member
Already at Chiltern - That sounds amazing.
I look forward to it. I’m sure they’re super busy so I’m comfortable with the process and I don’t mind the wait. Let’s see how things unfold in the coming weeks.
And thanks again for the support.
d44nny
Member
Would you mind sharing an example rota? I understand if you don't want to
Also how is anual leave booked?