Southern Class 313 withdrawal/storage/scrapping updates

[trainmania100]

207/202/214/217 all in mont 3 ready for scrap.
Formed up as a 12.

37800 is held at Kensington Olympia, seemingly signalling or electric issues

 

[that1pepfan]

207/202/214/217 all in mont 3 ready for scrap.
Formed up as a 12.

37800 is held at Kensington Olympia, seemingly signalling or electric issues

Why Is 207 in the mix?

 

[Islineclear3_1]

207...? Didn't know that was going so soon...

 

[JohnM68]

207...? Didn't know that was going so soon...

Only there to keep units pumped up with air, 9 car has no shoegear fitted so dead ducks, that will move off shortly

 

[03_179]

Loco move 144 late.

I hope to get out to have a photo/film it

 

[physics34]

Loco move 144 late.

I hope to get out to have a photo/film it

Lol quite a delay

 

[LCRTrainfan979]

Only there to keep units pumped up with air, 9 car has no shoegear fitted so dead ducks, that will move off shortly

Will that one [207] be staying with Southern for a few more months before it too is scrapped?

 

[JohnM68]

Will that one [207] be staying with Southern for a few more months before it too is scrapped?

Yup, rest will stay until timetable change

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Bugger at work; wanted to capture the move....

 

[03_179]

They way the delay is going you might still see it lol

 

[LUYMun]

5Q86 just left Lover's Walk 103 late, and is now passing Preston Park 105 late.

Realtime Trains | 5Q86 1024 Lovers Walk T&R.S.M.D to Eastleigh Arlington (Zg) | 10/03/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Q86 1024 departure from Lovers Walk T&R.S.M.D to Eastleigh Arlington (Zg) on 10/03/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[trainmania100]

Windy video of today's move.

202, 214 and 217. Nice but if thrash on the way out.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Lovely video, thanks for sharing

 

[315801]

Ahh the ever famous loco of death as I call them yet again doing its grim reaper duty.

 

[brad465]

Ahh the ever famous loco of death as I call them yet again doing its grim reaper duty.

I thought that was 37884, not 37800 (maybe the latter is the Grim Reaper's sidekick/deputy).

 

[LUYMun]

Seen it passing through Farnborough earlier, nice to catch a bit of thrash. I was wondering why the 313 door interlock lights have remained lit while moving?

 

[thedbdiboy]

Coming through Clapham Junction earlier

 

[Class15]

Coming through Clapham Junction earlierView attachment 130637View attachment 130638

Sad

 

[Deepgreen]

I had wondered why it couldn't power itself to Eastleigh via Fareham. Was there a technical reason why the shoegear was removed? My shot from Earlswood, in sleet, running 115 late.

 

[Class15]

I had wondered why it couldn't power itself to Eastleigh via Fareham. Was there a technical reason why the shoegear was removed? My shot from Earlswood, in sleet, running 115 late.View attachment 130639

These units were out of use for a long time before being sent for scrap.

 

[boiledbeans2]

[...] I was wondering why the 313 door interlock lights have remained lit while moving?

No idea, but post #132 in the 313 railtour thread had a similar comment:

313 Railtour?

Travelled on enough 313's along the East and West Coastway since their introduction so the tour doesn't add anything new really. I've bought a daysave and will just follow it around

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[LCRTrainfan979]

These units were out of use for a long time before being sent for scrap.

That is indeed correct, I have been commuting on them since September, and I never travelled on 313217 and 313214 (although I did travel on 313202 a few times in September)

I had wondered why it couldn't power itself to Eastleigh via Fareham. Was there a technical reason why the shoegear was removed? My shot from Earlswood, in sleet, running 115 late.View attachment 130639

I would suspect while they have been out of service, they would have been ripping out equipment so it could be used as spare parts on the 16 remaining units. I would suspect shoegear could have been an example of spare equipment that could have been useful to hold onto in case that was an issue on any unit.

 

[Geeves]

I don't claim to be any kind of expert but presuming here because the loco is connected directly to the train all sorts of things have been tripped like the door interlock and the emergency brake supply. That would likely put the hazard lights on, it does on the 150 units etc

 

[trainmania100]

Apparently this is for storage at Eastleigh not scrap .... Can anyone confirm? I'd better rename my video lol

 

[Class15]

Apparently this is for storage at Eastleigh not scrap .... Can anyone confirm? I'd better rename my video lol

I think it’s scrap but not sure.

 

[fgwrich]

I don't claim to be any kind of expert but presuming here because the loco is connected directly to the train all sorts of things have been tripped like the door interlock and the emergency brake supply. That would likely put the hazard lights on, it does on the 150 units etc

When it passed me this afternoon, I did note there was a member of ROG staff Sat in the drivers seat of 313202, presumably monitoring the units. I did wonder why most of the BIL lights were on!

 

[Deepgreen]

These units were out of use for a long time before being sent for scrap.

Hmmm, but even if hauled as they were today, it's a far shorter route via Fareham - wonder why the tortuous route round London was used. Surely there isn't a clearance issue on that route, is there?

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I think it’s scrap but not sure.

Technically it's for storage but I can't see anyone else using them!

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That is indeed correct, I have been commuting on them since September, and I never travelled on 313217 and 313214 (although I did travel on 313202 a few times in September)

I would suspect while they have been out of service, they would have been ripping out equipment so it could be used as spare parts on the 16 remaining units. I would suspect shoegear could have been an example of spare equipment that could have been useful to hold onto in case that was an issue on any unit.

Good point, but why not hauled via Fareham to avoid the longer journey via NW London?

 

[brad465]

This working has received the Francis Bourgeois treatment.

 

[ThameslinkUser]

- wonder why the tortuous route round London was used.

Running a loco around at Preston Park (and Eastleigh) would've been significantly more torturous, not to mention expensive.

 

[king_walnut]

I don't claim to be any kind of expert but presuming here because the loco is connected directly to the train all sorts of things have been tripped like the door interlock and the emergency brake supply. That would likely put the hazard lights on, it does on the 150 units etc

313s don't have EBS or hazard lights .. lack of interlock also doesn't apply the brakes. I'm sure many things were done to prep the units for dead haul but I couldn't say exactly what.