EMR Class 170 updates

[43055]

170923 has now been renumbered and in the shed at Etches Park.

So how many 170's have EMR received so far this year?
It's beggars belief that TFW are on their a** for units and having to give up the 170's which are ideal for the routes their currently serving when EMR still have operational 156's that could be extended in use slightly longer.

6 from West Midlands Railway
4 from Transport for Wales

11 156's have left the fleet with another 4 due to soon. A number of 156's are not in a good way as shown in the images shown in this thread. 156498 basically lived at the end of the sidings of Etches Park for the best part of the last year before it left the fleet.

EMR class 156s for Northern

The hand back dates of the Class 156s are no later than what is shown here Those are estimated dates so each hand back could be before or after said dates

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[The_Train]

170923 has now been renumbered and in the shed at Etches Park.

Renumbered to 423?

 

[43055]

Renumbered to 423?

Yes

 

[The_Train]

Yes

Thank you

 

[QSK19]

when EMR still have operational 156's that could be extended in use slightly longer.

If you want to travel on rot boxes, one of which has holes in the side of the shell (so much so that you can feel the breeze through them when you’re stood in the vestibule) and another of which has had to be stripped back to the absolute core to repair it, be my guest. The 156s have given decent service to the East Midlands; however they’re really feeling their age and need to go.

At least TfW are actually getting new trains - a luxury that the East Midlands’ non-IC operations has never enjoyed (and probably never will).

 

[43102EMR]

So how many 170's have EMR received so far this year?
It's beggars belief that TFW are on their a** for units and having to give up the 170's which are ideal for the routes their currently serving when EMR still have operational 156's that could be extended in use slightly longer.

I believe there’s 4 left from TfW and the last 6 from WMR still to go - 171201 will also transfer from Southern in the fall.

 

[Liam L]

I believe there’s 4 left from TfW and the last 6 from WMR still to go - 171201 will also transfer from Southern in the fall.

Only 4 left to go from the West Midlands.

170501/505/506/507

One leaves tomorrow

 

[animationmilo]

Is 170207 leaving this weekend from TFW

 

[170UTD]

Is 170207 leaving this weekend from TFW

Should be, that'll be the last TfW one until November although I'm not seeing any paths on RTT yet

 

[45076]

Should be, that'll be the last TfW one until November although I'm not seeing any paths on RTT yet

Somewhere above there's mention of 170207 coming up on 30/04/23, but like you say RTT has nothing yet.

 

[Pippy1505]

170507 5M57 1127 Tyseley - Etches Park 28/04/2023
170202 or maybe 170207 should be coming this weekend from Canton TBC

 

[Jacob Porrett]

How many more Southern units are coming? Anymore ScotRail units as well?

 

[45076]

170507 5M57 1127 Tyseley - Etches Park 28/04/2023
170202 or maybe 170207 should be coming this weekend from Canton TBC

cheers ears

 

[The_Train]

171201 will also transfer from Southern in the fall.

I never got around to re-adjusting my records for this unit - is it still operational as a 2 car unit with Southern at the moment then?

 

[170UTD]

I never got around to re-adjusting my records for this unit - is it still operational as a 2 car unit with Southern at the moment then?

Was reformed to 3 cars I think. Should be operating as 171201 with Southern.

 

[The_Train]

Was reformed to 3 cars I think. Should be operating as 171201 with Southern.

Thanks! Any idea which carriages form the unit please?

 

[170UTD]

Thanks! Any idea which carriages form the unit please?

No idea I'm afraid, hopefully someone more local to the area will know

 

[43096]

Thanks! Any idea which carriages form the unit please?

It's formed 50421 56421 79421; so will go back to being 170421 when/if it transfers to EMR

 

[Pippy1505]

Thanks! Any idea which carriages form the unit please?

50421/56421/79421

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Should be, that'll be the last TfW one until November although I'm not seeing any paths on RTT yet

3 remaining sets with TFW will be move around October time
Last one from Southern not till Dec
3 remaining sets from WMT end of May

 

[43055]

170201 is showing as out on the Matlocks at the moment

Realtime Trains | 2A15 0712 Matlock to Nottingham | 28/04/2023

Real-time train running information for 2A15 0712 departure from Matlock to Nottingham on 28/04/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[LowLevel]

The 3 car 170/2s have caused a bit of a headache as they have non standard door controls. The Guard can only operate the doors from the rear cab or middle coach as there's no saloon panels in the front and rear coach and can only do selective door opening in the middle coach.

They're back out to play now but can't call at Havenhouse on the down which is a bit of a pain as they're meant to be the dedicated Skegness units for the summer.

 

[Pippy1505]

cheers ears

Confirmed 170202 will move Cardiff-Derby on Sunday 30/04

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The 3 car 170/2s have caused a bit of a headache as they have non standard door controls. The Guard can only operate the doors from the rear cab or middle coach as there's no saloon panels in the front and rear coach and can only do selective door opening in the middle coach.

They're back out to play now but can't call at Havenhouse on the down which is a bit of a pain as they're meant to be the dedicated Skegness units for the summer.

Fortunately the 2 services that call at Havenhouse on the down are on the same stock diagram so not as much of an operational headache as it could have been

 

[LowLevel]

Confirmed 170202 will move Cardiff-Derby on Sunday 30/04

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Fortunately the 2 services that call at Havenhouse on the down are on the same stock diagram so not as much of an operational headache as it could have been

Indeed - given I've not picked up or dropped off anyone there for several years (even the occasional "regular" users seem to have dried up more or less) I'd have just knocked it out for the summer and put a taxi on. Trying to struggle down a full and standing train on a Friday to get to the front coach to do the SDO is a nightmare.

 

[45076]

Confirmed 170202 will move Cardiff-Derby on Sunday 30/04

Thank you for the update

 

[Liam L]

How many more Southern units are coming? Anymore ScotRail units as well?

Don’t think there is anymore Scotrail sets coming. Not sure on southern.

3 (170507 left today) still to come from WMR, 2 from TFW??

 

[170UTD]

Don’t think there is anymore Scotrail sets coming. Not sure on southern.

3 (170507 left today) still to come from WMR, 2 from TFW??

Should be 170421 to come from Southern. December was mentioned above. 3 left from WMT, 3 left from TfW

 

[Liverpool 507]

I thought EMR were using 158s on some Skegness services to release 170s for Liverpool - Norwich

 

[43055]

I thought EMR were using 158s on some Skegness services to release 170s for Liverpool - Norwich

I believe the 158's will be on the extra summer Saturday services which were in previous years HST and 180 operated with the normal hourly service still being (3 car?) 170's.

 

[33017]

170507 5M57 1127 Tyseley - Etches Park 28/04/2023
170202 or maybe 170207 should be coming this weekend from Canton TBC

170202, leaving TfW with 206-208.

 

[43102EMR]

Any word on 170205’s relivery?