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Lothian Group discussion (Lothian City, Lothian Country Bus and East Coast Buses)

DunsBus

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Hybrid 11 was noted by me, from passing preserved Atlantean 300, in the yard at Marine on Thursday evening (15th June) with its rear covered by a tarpaulin. tt may have moved inside by now.
 
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448 has been repainted, does anyone know how many have been done so far?
 

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448 has been repainted, does anyone know how many have been done so far?
441, 443 and 448 are done, 446 will probably return to service with a fresh repaint as well after a recent accident in Silverknowes / Muirhouse

Linked is a Youtube video showing 446s damage -
 

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I can't find out for sure if it has or not, but I wonder whether Lothian have or will apply vinyls to 401 displaying its name 'Gus the Bus' as they did with Hamish.
 

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Correct, it was parked outside yesterday as per the photo.

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Looking likely it’s only a brief visit for publicity purposes in relation to the Labour Leader launching an energy event in Edinburgh today.

See tweet reference: https://twitter.com/andydphilip/status/1670707990029107200

Sounds like the bus failed and also got lost! So can assume it was just being housed at Central garage rather than being at Lothian specifically for demonstration.
 
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997 now has a tracker, I thought someone would've said by now but I'll spill the beans! :lol:

I don't know if this means anything but it may mean that Lothian are keeping it/having the bus for a long time, I wouldn't come to early conclusions though!
 

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Looking likely it’s only a brief visit for publicity purposes in relation to the Labour Leader launching an energy event in Edinburgh today.

See tweet reference: https://twitter.com/andydphilip/status/1670707990029107200

Sounds like the bus failed and also got lost! So can assume it was just being housed at Central garage rather than being at Lothian specifically for demonstration.
Oh dear. Looks like 466 is the one that replaced it.
 

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I’m thinking that maybe Lothian are holding onto 926-934 and 195-198 in case McGill’s pull out or reduce their service even more in West Lothian.

There will also soon be 841-850 which seem to be going into storage so could also be used in an emergency situation where they find themselves with not enough buses.

What does everyone else think?
 

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I’m thinking that maybe Lothian are holding onto 926-934 and 195-198 in case McGill’s pull out or reduce their service even more in West Lothian.

There will also soon be 841-850 which seem to be going into storage so could also be used in an emergency situation where they find themselves with not enough buses.

What does everyone else think?
Not a chance. I think they’re simply being kept to stagger out the sales and specifically the money generated from them. I’d expect 841-850 and 926-936 to have all been sold before the end of the year. 195-198 I think are standby buses for any potential increase in single decks.

What’s more likely is that McGill’s don’t apply for the 20, 63 or 68 and Lothian picks up some of these. From what I understand there’s somewhat of an expectation from the council that Lothian will apply for them as well as the new Cramond to Gyle route, even the 68. Combined with the delivery of the BZL’s, should enough drivers be available it should allow for a potential conversion of the 30 to deckers, thus freeing up enough single decks whilst also withdrawing 1-10.

These contracts are all due to start/end in October, so we should get at least some idea of what the plan is with these by the end of the summer. I wouldn’t expect a concrete decision from the council until at least September though. I myself can see Lothian bidding for 3 of the 4 aforementioned routes. I can’t see them bidding for the 13 or the 68 though.
 

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I’m thinking that maybe Lothian are holding onto 926-934 and 195-198 in case McGill’s pull out or reduce their service even more in West Lothian.

There will also soon be 841-850 which seem to be going into storage so could also be used in an emergency situation where they find themselves with not enough buses.

What does everyone else think?
To use a Dad's Army line, "I think you're wandering into the realms of fantasy there." ;)
 

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I have just seen that it looks like it is 14 that has replaced 11.
It doesn’t confirm that 11 is gone, but what it does confirm is that 11 has been replaced. This had to happen either way anyway as even if 11 does end up being rebuilt (which I still doubt it will) then you’re talking months for that to happen. First Essex have just sent a bunch of 7900’s to scrap via Ensign so parts are available if it’s something Lothian are able to and want to pursue. We shall have to wait and see.
 

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It doesn’t confirm that 11 is gone, but what it does confirm is that 11 has been replaced. This had to happen either way anyway as even if 11 does end up being rebuilt (which I still doubt it will) then you’re talking months for that to happen. First Essex have just sent a bunch of 7900’s to scrap via Ensign so parts are available if it’s something Lothian are able to and want to pursue. We shall have to wait and see.
It is good to see it back in service as it must be around 18 months off the road. It did look pretty burnt out at Seafield so probably a waste of resources.
 

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