Stations rebranded to Great British Railways design / Rail Alphabet 2

[Non Multi]

I thought of this post when I alighted from the Sleeper this morning and noticed there is a double-arrow flag flying above Euston!

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(image shows a view of the entrance to Euston London Underground station, a red flag with a white British Rail double-arrow sits semi-unfurled on flagpole above)

There's a double arrow flag now being flown from a new flagpole at the north entrance of Reading station (operated by Network Rail). I presume it's also another one of Sir Peter's initiatives.

 

[Mollman]

That right hand photo shows how ridiculous these signs are, and how their research was flawed. That just isn't eyecatching from the background. A dark blue sign with white lettering would stand out far more. Even putting coloured bands under each line would catch the eye better.

At least it doesn't use a double arrow for the platform symbols.

 

[zwk500]

I thought of this post when I alighted from the Sleeper this morning and noticed there is a double-arrow flag flying above Euston!

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(image shows a view of the entrance to Euston London Underground station, a red flag with a white British Rail double-arrow sits semi-unfurled on flagpole above)

That flag just looks sad. Not even on the highest point, tilted over like it's forgotten at the back of a Ship rather than vertical, visible and proud.

 

[Watershed]

That flag just looks sad. Not even on the highest point, tilted over like it's forgotten at the back of a Ship rather than vertical, visible and proud.

Just about summarises the state of things!

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I thought of this post when I alighted from the Sleeper this morning and noticed there is a double-arrow flag flying above Euston!

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(image shows a view of the entrance to Euston London Underground station, a red flag with a white British Rail double-arrow sits semi-unfurled on flagpole above)

I must admit I did audibly laugh when I saw the state of that flag.

 

[SteveyBee131]

(Haven’t really been following this thread closely.)
Is there any reason why the DfT are funding East Midlands Railway to re-sign Sheffield in what appears to be a bespoke ‘TOC’ style rather than the GBR one?

Why leave so much space? Why not enlarge the letters and dividing lines to make it more eye catching?

On the whole I quite like EMR's new station signs, even (or perhaps especially!) with them being different to GBR/RA2/call-it-what-you-will. But, why use a sign board designed to take 5 lines of text for a 3-line sign?!

 

[Scott1]

On the whole I quite like EMR's new station signs, even (or perhaps especially!) with them being different to GBR/RA2/call-it-what-you-will. But, why use a sign board designed to take 5 lines of text for a 3-line sign?!

Its been stuck on over the top of the old sign, so some of them have fewer lines than before, or have more lines on one side than the other.

 

[Goldfish62]

I must admit I did audibly laugh when I saw the state of that flag.

It's a pretty pathetic sight.

 

[XAM2175]

Yes, Waterloo's is much better.

 

[class717]

Grange Park now has a new RA2 roadside double arrow sign

 

[WizCastro197]

Meadowhall has them, not sure how long or if it was mentioned, but it’s confusing to navigate and signs are needed in places that they aren’t.

 

[RooseWithAZed]

When I was back in Barrow I saw a new bunch of block letters have been put up inside above of the main door reading "Welcome to Barrow in Furness" which I think is set in RA2. I don't think anything else has been changed yet. Not particularly well done though since you can see where they've painted underneath it and the paint colour doesn't match the rest of the wall.

 

[johntea]

Noticed in passing today the new platform at Castleford has had the new signs put up recently (about 4 or 5 of them actually which seems a bit overkill!)

 

[physics34]

Ive noticed that the roadside Double Arrow sign at the refurbished Crawley station is in RA2 i believe.

 

[JaJaWa]

I think Thanet Parkway is using the new font and symbols (?) on the signs but the colour scheme and layout is still the Govia Southeastern design.

 

[Doomotron]

I think Thanet Parkway is using the new font and symbols (?) on the signs but the colour scheme and layout is still the Govia Southeastern design.

The font is new (and IMO uglier than the normal Southeastern font) but the general design is entirely Southeastern, with the exception of the logos which are the newer design rather than Southeastern's previous logo design (with lilac rather than bright blue and no dot). I am not sure if any other SE stations have that logo.

 

[Leyland Bus]

Can someone post some pictures please, I'm getting confused now. Are the signs in RA2 but to SE style or some completely different style?

 

[Doomotron]

Are the signs in RA2 but to SE style

Yes, or at least it's what I think is RA2.

 

[TheLunaPark]

Yes, or at least it's what I think is RA2.

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Oh dear. Let’s be honest, the rollout of RA2 has been a shambles. The design guidelines weren’t perfect, but let’s at least follow them and maintain coherence. Not to mention how many signs have been done on the cheap, with sticker vinyls plastered over knackered old signposts.

 

[SargeNpton]

Whoever did the sign at the entrance to Frant station needs a slapped wrist.

I was half expecting a Sealink ferry to come sailing in.

 

[nlogax]

Whoever did the sign at the entrance to Frant station needs a slapped wrist.

I was half expecting a Sealink ferry to come sailing in.

An absolute dog's dinner. Anyway, what's the cheapest return fare from Frant to Cherbourg?

 

[Chiltern006]

it’s wierd on Southeastern. it’s mostly the standard Southeastern sign with the lilac, however more and more “Platform 1 for trains to etc” sign are popping up in the Network Rail Brunel font. Stations that spring to mind are Petts Wood, Kemsing and Charing

 

[Leyland Bus]

Yes, or at least it's what I think is RA2.

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Oh yeah, that's RA2... What an absolute mess... For a design that was supposed to create a clean, uniformed look, it's not really going well is it?!

 

[Doomotron]

Oh yeah, that's RA2... What an absolute mess... For a design that was supposed to create a clean, uniformed look, it's not really going well is it?!

That's true. I was surprised that when Thanet Parkway was built it didn't have GBR signs. Arguably the temporary 'Thanet Parkway station now open' signs look more like GBR, but I don't even think the font is RA2 either.

 

[Leyland Bus]

That's true. I was surprised that when Thanet Parkway was built it didn't have GBR signs. Arguably the temporary 'Thanet Parkway station now open' signs look more like GBR, but I don't even think the font is RA2 either.
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When you largely thought things couldn't get much worse...

 

[ScottGallagher]

Considering the scattergun approach to rolling this out and the tight finances perhaps this should be knocked on the head now and let TOCs carry on with their own thing.

 

[thomalex]

Considering the scattergun approach to rolling this out and the tight finances perhaps this should be knocked on the head now and let TOCs carry on with their own thing.

I don't understand why this seemingly is all so difficult. Network Rail have put out a manual to the various TOCs which describes how to design signage for stations in much the same way National Highways issue manuals to local authorities on how to design signage for the road network. And bar some subtle misinterpretations road signage manages to look consistent UK wide with infinitely more local authorities and signs while it seems you can do whatever you want at stations. There's a manual, follow it.

Noticed in passing today the new platform at Castleford has had the new signs put up recently (about 4 or 5 of them actually which seems a bit overkill!)

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Wow, someone's finally followed the manual it seems!

 

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[Doomotron]

When you largely thought things couldn't get much worse...

To be fair I doubt it's meant to be a GBR sign, but the station itself does feel like it should be GBR.

 

[SargeNpton]

To be fair I doubt it's meant to be a GBR sign, but the station itself does feel like it should be GBR.

GBR doesn't exist yet, and isn't likely to until after the next general election. At the moment, it's still the TOCs and/or Network Rail who are doing the station signs.