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Monday 11th December, subject to the usual alterations:

319361

Springs B 06+11 5V01FE
Wigan NW 06+25 06.36 2V01FA
Mancr Vic 07.07 07.13 2G91FN
Wigan NW 07.47 08.36 2V03FA
Mancr Vic 09.09 09.13 2G93FN
Wigan NW 09.46 10+09 5W03FE
Springs B 10+22

319372 The White Knight

PrstnCtSS 07+15 5V02
Wigan NW 07+36 07.39 2V02
Mancr Vic 08.09 08.13 2G92
Wigan NW 08.47 09.24 2F01
Lime St 10.12 10+30 5Y01
AllrtnDep 10+52

AllrtnDep 15+56 5F52
Lime St 16+16 16.45 2F52
Wigan NW 17.32 17.38 2C25
Lime St 18.21 18.31 2W91
Wigan NW 19.30 19+41 5W91
Springs B 19+53

319368

AllrtnDep 06+31 5A11
Lime St 06+46 07.00 2A11
Mancr Air 08.25 08.32 2F25
Lime St 09.52 10.15 2F66
Wigan NW 11.03 11.21 2C12
Lime St 12.09 12.45 2F56
Wigan NW 13.34 13.53 2C17
Lime St 14.43 15.00 2A19
Mancr Air 16.25 16.32 2F27
Lime St 17.53 18.13 2F60
Wigan NW 19.03 19.21 2C28
Lime St 20.09 20.45 2F50
Wigan NW 21.33 22.07 2C33
Lime St 23.02 23+12 5T33
AllrtnDep 23+25

319385

AllrtnDep 05+32 5A01
Lime St 05+47 06.00 2A10
Mancr Air 07.25 07.32 2F21
Lime St 08.52 09.14 2F62
Wigan NW 10.04 10.21 2C10
Lime St 11.08 11.15 2F50
Wigan NW 12.04 12.21 2C14
Lime St 13.09 13.45 2F60
Wigan NW 14.32 14.52 2C19
Lime St 15.43 16.28 2V92
Mancr Vic 17.25 17.29 2F29
Lime St 18.29 19.14 2F64
Wigan NW 20.04 20.21 2C30
Lime St 21.10 21+26 5Y30
AllrtnDep 21+42
 
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50032 said:
Note: Northern has confirmed in an internal memo that 319s will continue to be used on an ad hoc basis until the 331 swaps are complete, so today isn't the final day afterall. Don't expect them to tell us when the final workings will be though!
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331 swaps or 323 swaps? This is quite good news, since every diagram covered by a 319 from this point would otherwise have been cancelled all day, but what happened to it being impossible to extend the lease.

Someone’s done a good job somewhere and the rarest kind of common sense has prevailed at the last minute. Do we know roughly how long this arrangement is likely to last?

Obviously with no booked diagrams in this timetable, 319s can appear on any random service!
 
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507020 said:
331 swaps or 323 swaps? This is quite good news, since every diagram covered by a 319 from this point would otherwise have been cancelled all day, but what happened to it being impossible to extend the lease.

Someone’s done a good job somewhere and the rarest kind of common sense has prevailed at the last minute. Do we know roughly how long this arrangement is likely to last?

Obviously with no booked diagrams in this timetable, 319s can appear on any random service!
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331 swaps. It'll become clear how long they've got once more Allerton-Skipton ROG moves appear in RTT, but I'd suggest at least the next fortnight will see continued use of 319s.

Tuesday 12th December allocations:

319369

AllrtnDep 06+31 5A11
Lime St 06+46 07.00 2A11
Mancr Air 08.25 08.32 2F25
Lime St 09.52 11.00 2A15
Mancr Air 12.25 12.32 2F11
Lime St 13.53 15.00 2A19
Mancr Air 16.25 16.32 2F27
Lime St 17.53 18.13 2F60
Wigan NW 19.03 19.21 2C28
Lime St 20.09 20.45 2F50
Wigan NW 21.33 22.07 2C33
Lime St 23.02 23+12 5T33
AllrtnDep 23+25

319361

Springs B 05+03 5C00
Wigan NW 05+17 05.35 2C00
Lime St 06.24 06.38 1N80
BlckpoolN 07.57 08.03 2C07
Lime St 09.44 10.00 2A14
Mancr Air 11.25 11.32 2F37
Lime St 12.53 13.15 2F58
Wigan NW 14.04 14.21 2C18
Lime St 15.09 15.45 2F68
Wigan NW 16.33 16.54 2C23
Lime St 17.43 18.00 2A22
Mancr Air 19.25 19.32 2F39
Lime St 20.53 21.08 2A25
Mancr Air 22.28 23.46 1N67
BlckpoolN 01.24 01+30 5N67
BlckplNCS 01+35

319381

Springs B 05+03 5C00
Wigan NW 05+18 05.52 2C01
Lime St 06.42 07.15 2F54
Wigan NW 08.03 08.21 2C06
Lime St 09.12 09.45 2F64
Wigan NW 10.32 10.52 2C11
Lime St 11.43 12.00 2A16
Mancr Air 13.25 13.32 2F15
Lime St 14.52 15.15 2F66
Wigan NW 16.04 16.21 2C22
Lime St 17.12 17.45 2F56
Wigan NW 18.32 18.52 2C27
Lime St 19.43 20.16 2F68
Wigan NW 21.04 21.21 2C32
Lime St 22.10 22+23 5Y32
AllrtnDep 21+39

319368

AllrtnDep 05+49 5F50
Lime St 06+04 06.16 2F50
Wigan NW 07.03 07.21 2C04
Lime St 08.16 08.44 2F60
Wigan NW 09.32 09.53 2C09
Lime St 10.43 11.00 2A15
Mancr Air 12.25 12.32 2F11
Lime St 13.53 14.15 2F62
Wigan NW 15.03 15.21 2C20
Lime St 16.08 16.39 1N80
BlckpoolN 17.57 18.04 1F04
Lime St 19.20 19.39 1N83
BlckpoolN 20.58 21.22 1Y63
Mancr Air 23.02 23.17 1N66
BlckpoolN 00.49 01+03 5N66
BlckplNCS 01+08
 
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13:04 Manchester Piccadilly - Manchester Airport (originating from Liverpool Lime Street) was formed of a 319 today - unsure of number.
Edit - 319381 was the number on RTT.
 
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Wednesday 13th December, amended @ 12.30:

319368

BlckplNCS 05+07 5Y51
BlckpoolN 05+12 05.22 1Y51
Mancr Air 07.00 07.17 1N54
BlckpoolN 08.54 09.26 1Y59
Mancr Air 11.00 11.17 1N62
BlckpoolN 12.50 13.26 5Y67 ***
Preston 13.51 13.53 1Y67
Mancr Air 15.00 15.17 1N50
BlckpoolN 16.50

319385

BlckplNCS 04+42 5Y50
BlckpoolN 04+47 05.00 1Y50
Mancr Air 06.31 06.48 1N53
BlckpoolN 08.27 09.56 1Y60
Mancr Air 11.36 11.48 1N63
BlckpoolN 13.25 13.56 5Y68 ***
Mancr Air 15.36 15.48 5N51 ***
BlckpoolN 17.26 17.56 1Y56
Mancr Air 19.36 19.48 1N59
BlckpoolN 21.26 21.55 1U00
ManchstrP 23.13 23+16 5H00
WilmslDRS 23+31 23+48 5H00
Stockport 00+07 00+11 5H00
StockptCS 00+16

Been a while since 319's dominated the Bolton corridor :D
 
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50032 said:
Wednesday 13th December @ 05.00:

319368

BlckplNCS 05+07 5Y51
BlckpoolN 05+12 05.22 1Y51
Mancr Air 07.00 07.17 1N54
BlckpoolN 08.54 09.26 1Y59
Mancr Air 11.00 11.17 1N62
BlckpoolN 12.50 13.26 1Y67
Mancr Air 15.00 15.17 1N50
BlckpoolN 16.50 19.08 1F09
Lime St 22.31 22.48 5T87
Wigan NW 23.18 00.04 1N87
Preston 00.27 00+29 5N87
PrstnCtSS 00+43

319385

BlckplNCS 04+42 5Y50
BlckpoolN 04+47 05.00 1Y50
Mancr Air 06.31 06.48 1N53
BlckpoolN 08.27 09.56 1Y60
Mancr Air 11.36 11.48 1N63
BlckpoolN 13.25 13.56 1Y68
Mancr Air 15.36 15.48 1N51
BlckpoolN 17.26 17.56 1Y56
Mancr Air 19.36 19.48 1N59
BlckpoolN 21.26 21.55 1U00
ManchstrP 23.13 23+16 5H00
WilmslDRS 23+31 23+48 5H00
Stockport 00+07 00+11 5H00
StockptCS 00+16

Been a while since 319's dominated the Bolton corridor :D
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Wow the Class 319s are quickly disappearing now I've noticed. All of the diagrams from Wigan NW are all 331s today it seems towards Liverpool/Blackpool. How many 319s remaining now was it with Northern?
 
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1Y67 started Preston, 1Y68 & 1N51 cancelled throughout (running ECS both ways), traincrew shortages.

1Y67 is seen approaching Salford Crescent
 

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Neptune said:
It’s common that if there’s no guard the unit will still use the path to keep it from blocking a platform for how ever long it would be there.
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I do understand that, but Blackpool North has long platforms, permissive working is authorised, and there's also the carriage sidings nearby...
 
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I do understand that, but Blackpool North has long platforms, permissive working is authorised, and there's also the carriage sidings nearby...
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And if a guard is found that can work the return leg (ie late notice rd work) then the unit is now in the right place.
 
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I do understand that, but Blackpool North has long platforms, permissive working is authorised, and there's also the carriage sidings nearby...
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It also means if it's a minder+trainee/route learner driving they still get their hours and trips in rather than slowing training down.
 
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Thursday 14th December:

319368

BlckpoolN 09.26 1Y59
Mancr Air 11.00 11.17 1N62
BlckpoolN 12.50 13.26 1Y67
Mancr Air 15.00 15.17 1N50
BlckpoolN 16.50 21.08 1F09
Lime St 22.31 23.15 1N87
Preston 00.27 00+29 5N87
PrstnCtSS 00+43

319385

StockptCS 05+26 5F17
WilmslDRS 05+54 06+12 5F17
Mancr Air 06+21 06.32 2F17
Lime St 07.52 08.17 2F58
Wigan NW 09.03 09.21 2C08
Lime St 10.09 10.45 2F68
Wigan NW 11.32 11.52 2C13
Lime St 12.43 13.00 2A17
Mancr Air 14.26 14.32 2F19
Lime St 15.53 16.15 2F50
Wigan NW 17.06 17.21 2C24
Lime St 18.09 18.45 2F62
Wigan NW 19.35 19.53 2C29
Lime St 20.43 21.14 1N85
BlckpoolN 22.46 22+57 5N85
BlckplNCS 23+02

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Friday 15th December @ 21.00:

319372 The White Knight

Springs B 06+11 5V01
Wigan NW 06+25 06.36 2V01
Mancr Vic 07.07 07.13 2G91
Wigan NW 07.47 08.36 2V03
Mancr Vic 09.09 09.13 2G93
Wigan NW 09.46 10+09 5W03
Springs B 10+22

319368

PrstnCtSS 07+15 5V02
Wigan NW 07+36 07.39 2V02
Mancr Vic 08.09 08.13 2G92
Wigan NW 08.47 09.24 2F01
Lime St 10.12 10+30 5Y01
AllrtnDep 10+52

319385

BlckplNCS 06+40 5F02
BlckpoolN 06+45 07.04 1F02
Lime St 08.29 08.39 1N82
BlckpoolN 09.57 10.04 1F08
Lime St 11.20 11.39 1N85
BlckpoolN 12.58 13.05 1F07
Lime St 14.21 14.39 1N88
BlckpoolN 15.58 16.05 1F00
Lime St 17.22 17.39 1N81
BlckpoolN 18.57 19+08 5N81
BlckplNCS 19+13

319381

AllrtnDep 05+49 5F50
Lime St 06+04 06.16 2F50
Wigan NW 07.03 07.21 2C04
Lime St 08.16 08.44 2F60
Wigan NW 09.32 09.53 2C09
Lime St 10.43 11.00 2A15
Mancr Air 12.25 12.32 2F11
Lime St 13.53 14.15 2F62
Wigan NW 15.03 15.21 2C20
Lime St 16.08 17.00 2A21
Mancr Air 18.25 18.32 2F35
Lime St 19.52
 
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319368 might have potentially signed its self into an earlier trip to Newport after dying a death on 2V02 this morning. Managed to eventually limp to Victoria and is now in the turnback OOS

After a day and night (being fettled back to life) in the turnback 368 is finally heading back to Allerton as 5Z85
 
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Saturday 16th December, only one 319 out today:

319385

BlckplNCS 05+07 5Y51
BlckpoolN 05+12 05.22 1Y51
Mancr Air 07.00 07.17 1N54
Oxford Rd 07.35 07.37 5N54 ***
BlckpoolN 08.54 09.26 5Y59 ***
Oxford Rd 10.41 10.43 1Y59
Mancr Air 11.00 11.17 1N62
BlckpoolN 12.50 13.26 1Y67
Mancr Air 15.00 15.17 1N50
BlckpoolN 16.50 17.26 1Y55
Mancr Air 19.00 19.17 1N58
BlckpoolN 20.50 21.08 5F09 ***
Wigan NW 21.51 21.52 1F09
Lime St 22.31 23.15 1N87
Preston 00.23 00+34 5N87
PrstnCtSS 00+48
 
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50032 said:
Saturday 16th December, only one 319 out today:

319385

BlckplNCS 05+07 5Y51
BlckpoolN 05+12 05.22 1Y51
Mancr Air 07.00 07.17 1N54
BlckpoolN 08.54 09.26 1Y59
Mancr Air 11.00 11.17 1N62
BlckpoolN 12.50 13.26 1Y67
Mancr Air 15.00 15.17 1N50
BlckpoolN 16.50 17.26 1Y55
Mancr Air 19.00 19.17 1N58
BlckpoolN 20.50 21.08 1F09
Lime St 22.31 23.15 1N87
Preston 00.23 00+34 5N87
PrstnCtSS 00+48
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Many thanks for this 50032. Much appreciated . Please keep posting this info if you can
 
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For the record: today 1F09 started at Wigan North Western due to crew shortage, it ran as 5F09 Blackpool North - Wigan North Western.
 
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Monday 18th December @ 05.00:

319372 The White Knight

Springs B 06+11 5V01
Wigan NW 06+25 06.36 2V01
Mancr Vic 07.07 07.13 2G91
Wigan NW 07.47 08.36 2V03
Mancr Vic 09.09 09.13 2G93
Wigan NW 09.46 10+09 5W03
Springs B 10+22

Springs B 15+06 5V04
Wigan NW 15+20 15.35 2V04
Mancr Vic 16.09 16.13 2G94
Wigan NW 16.46 17.22 2V06
Mancr Vic 18.09 18.13 2G96
Wigan NW 18.42 19+12 5F96
Springs B 19+26

319385

PrstnCtSS 07+15 5V02
Wigan NW 07+36 07.39 2V02
Mancr Vic 08.09 08.13 2G92
Wigan NW 08.47 09.24 2F01
Lime St 10.12 10+30 5Y01
AllrtnDep 10+52

(I thought there were no 319 workings yesterday, but 319381 snuck out and did 1N87 23.15 LIV-BPN last night).
 
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5Q76 on Wednesday 20th December is now 319361 & 319366.



Friday 22nd December units to Newport are 319370 & 319383.
 
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Wonder if they'll use 319372 to test the overhead wires on the stalybridge line when they go live on 1st jan like they did when the bolton to preston line electrification was completed, before it goes for scrap.
 
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