Cricket

[SuspectUsual]

Great game, ends in a tie with a wicket off the last ball. Quite ridiculous really !

Just watched the last 45 minutes on youtube while doing the ironing. What a fantastic finish

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Still a remarkable effort to score 592 in the final innings, in an attempt to secure a result.

 

[Busaholic]

Still a remarkable effort to score 592 in the final innings, in an attempt to secure a result.

All in all, a remarkable match, held at the beautiful Cheltenham ground too. Really, can any tied match, other than the Australia v West Indies test in 1961, rival it? Sam Northeast must be asking himself what score he needs to make to find himself on the winning side! Why has he never been near a test side? Like Jonathan Trott, he's never been satisfied with a century and always tries to convert it to 150 plus scores. Most of them made at away grounds too, unlike some overrated Surrey players I could name!

 

[HST43257]

That's essentially why the County Championship was split into two divisions.

So that system is actually already in place.

Well yeah but that ain’t working in practice

Matthew Potts was picked on Division 2 performances
Joe Root and Harry Brook have only played Division 2 this year

 

[bspahh]

The England West Indies test is moving quickly

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[Xenophon PCDGS]

West Indies (1st innings)....121 all out (41.4 overs)
After 34.1 overs they were 88-3, but after 38.3 overs, they were 106-9. Amazing what can happen in a Test Match in less than five overs.

Atkinson...12 - 5 - 45 - 7.

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Jimmy Anderson, in what looks like his last batting innings for England, added yet another "not out" to his large Test Match collection of these.

 

[Bald Rick]

West Indies (1st innings)....121 all out (41.4 overs)
After 34.1 overs they were 88-3, but after 38.3 overs, they were 106-9. Amazing what can happen in a Test Match in less than five overs.

Atkinson...12 - 5 - 45 - 7.

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Jimmy Anderson, in what looks like his last batting innings for England, added yet another "not out" to his large Test Match collection of these.

There’s part of me that wants the Windies to make 252, and for England to open the 2nd innings with Stokes facing, and Jimmy at the other end.

However i guess it will be all over well before lunch tomorrow. Shame for the MCC, all that Pimms won’t drink itself.

 

[High Dyke]

Unassailable win for England Women against New Zealand. Credit to Alice Capsey for her highest IT20 score.
Eng Women v NZ Women
142-4 (19.2) - 141-8 (20.0)

 

[scarby]

There’s part of me that wants the Windies to make 252, and for England to open the 2nd innings with Stokes facing, and Jimmy at the other end.

However i guess it will be all over well before lunch tomorrow. Shame for the MCC, all that Pimms won’t drink itself.

Shame most of all for those who have invested a lot of time to attend today, no doubt some with advance rail tickets and hotel rooms. Though at least there are enough wickets standing for a bit of play.

You almost think someone high up would have a quiet word, "Give Bashir and Root the first hour's bowling today, it will be good for everyone."

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

West Indies (2nd innings)...136 all out

England win by an innings and 114 runs

Jimmy Anderson's total match bowling return over both the West Indies innings was.....26.4 - 10 - 58 - 4. That took his Test Match dismissal return to 704.

 

[birchesgreen]

So close to overtaking Warne, but number 3 on the all-time will do! I suspect with test cricket as it is now we may never see anyone else ever pass 700 wickets?

 

[Bald Rick]

Shame most of all for those who have invested a lot of time to attend today, no doubt some with advance rail tickets and hotel rooms. Though at least there are enough wickets standing for a bit of play.

You almost think someone high up would have a quiet word, "Give Bashir and Root the first hour's bowling today, it will be good for everyone."

I should think it was a great day for anyone who did attend - not least because it finished in under 15 overs and was a full refund.

 

[Whistler40145]

Should Jimmy Anderson receive a knighthood?

 

[Bald Rick]

Should Jimmy Anderson receive a knighthood?

Yes, no question, and one imagines it happens soon. Boycott, Botham, Strauss & Cook have been knighted (not to mention Bedser, Cowdrey and Gubby Allen), and Jimmy has achieved as much - if not more - than these fine gentlemen.

 

[Busaholic]

A county cricketer on my radar for a while is wicketkeeper Michael Pepper of Essex. This afternoon he hit 120" to win a T20 match against Sussex at Hove. I harbour a longing for him to open a T20 for England along with Phil Salt.

 

[HST43257]

A county cricketer on my radar for a while is wicketkeeper Michael Pepper of Essex. This afternoon he hit 120" to win a T20 match against Sussex at Hove. I harbour a longing for him to open a T20 for England along with Phil Salt.

He’s promising, but so so inconsistent at the moment. Something of an understudy to Adam Rossington, the way I see it, which I can’t work out if it’s a good thing or a bad thing.

I imagine Phil Salt and Will Jacks will reserve those opening spots all the way from 2026/2028 well into the 2030s

 

[Busaholic]

He’s promising, but so so inconsistent at the moment. Something of an understudy to Adam Rossington, the way I see it, which I can’t work out if it’s a good thing or a bad thing.

I imagine Phil Salt and Will Jacks will reserve those opening spots all the way from 2026/2028 well into the 2030s

Jordan Cox is another at Essex who apparently keeps wicket. Rossington I've only seen in The Hundred, but I've never heard any rave reviews of his keeping in his long career.

 

[HST43257]

Jordan Cox is another at Essex who apparently keeps wicket. Rossington I've only seen in The Hundred, but I've never heard any rave reviews of his keeping in his long career.

Cox kept wicket for Kent if Billings wasn’t around, and he would’ve probably had a hand in keeping this season if it wasn’t for an injury that’s limited him to batting I think, hence Harry Duke signing on loan earlier in the season while Pepper and Rossington were both injured.

I don’t get the impression that any of those 3 Essex keepers are special (Foakes level... How ironic!) but they’re decent keeper-bats across formats. Pepper has age on his side for certain, but I doubt we will see him for England with Salt and Smith very capable with the gloves

 

[Busaholic]

Cox kept wicket for Surrey if Billings wasn’t around, and he would’ve probably had a hand in keeping this season if it wasn’t for an injury that’s limited him to batting I think, hence Harry Duke signing on loan earlier in the season while Pepper and Rossington were both injured.

I don’t get the impression that any of those 3 Essex keepers are special (Foakes level... How ironic!) but they’re decent keeper-bats across formats. Pepper has age on his side for certain, but I doubt we will see him for England with Salt and Smith very capable with the gloves

I'm not trying to advance the cause of any of the Essex keepers, I'll make it clear. James Foster, on the other hand....

If Jamie Smith hadn't made such an impact, I might suggest the other Ollie Robinson, of Durham, or James Rew of Somerset who some say as a keeper is second only to Foakes.

 

[HST43257]

I'm not trying to advance the cause of any of the Essex keepers, I'll make it clear. James Foster, on the other hand....

If Jamie Smith hadn't made such an impact, I might suggest the other Ollie Robinson, of Durham, or James Rew of Somerset who some say as a keeper is second only to Foakes.

Rew is young and a good bat but isn’t the naturally attacking bat that England want at 7. It was completely right to drop Foakes and Bairstow for this summer so it was a 50/50 for me between Robinson and Smith and I think they chose right. Yes, Smith doesn’t keep full-time in matches but I’ve watched him keep live and he’s very good with the gloves. Sadly not many do get the chance to keep when their superior is the best gloveman in the world. So yes he’s a very capable (and quality) keeper, but most of all he’s a more classy batter than Robinson imo, which gives him a better likelihood of probably being more consistently really good

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Sadly not many do get the chance to keep when their superior is the best gloveman in the world.

Was it not something of a similar situation that saw Buttler decide to change counties and move to Lancashire?

 

[Busaholic]

Was it not something of a similar situation that saw Buttler decide to change counties and move to Lancashire?

Yes, Somerset favoured Craig Kieswetter, who was also a one day specialist and played for England in both 50 over internationals and the newish Twenty20; indeed he was Man of the Match in the 2010 World Cup final in that format. His career was cut short by a freak cricketing accident.

 

[HST43257]

Was it not something of a similar situation that saw Buttler decide to change counties and move to Lancashire?

Yes, Somerset favoured Craig Kieswetter, who was also a one day specialist and played for England in both 50 over internationals and the newish Twenty20

Only difference is, Surrey are worth sticking around for. Test ground, playing with current or former Test players, probably the best academy/feeder system/coaching system out of all the counties. It’s taken a lot of time on the sidelines for, say, Dan Moriarty and (probably) Conor McKerr to come to Yorkshire in search of first team cricket

 

[Busaholic]

Only difference is, Surrey are worth sticking around for. Test ground, playing with current or former Test players, probably the best academy/feeder system/coaching system out of all the counties. It’s taken a lot of time on the sidelines for, say, Dan Moriarty and (probably) Conor McKerr to come to Yorkshire in search of first team cricket

It's interesting that Dom Sibley chose to return to Surrey from Warwickshire once he'd been dropped from the England team. He must have thought he had a chance of regaining his England place. I think he may yet, but not while present management is in place.

 

[HST43257]

It's interesting that Dom Sibley chose to return to Surrey from Warwickshire once he'd been dropped from the England team. He must have thought he had a chance of regaining his England place. I think he may yet, but not while present management is in place.

Agreed to an extent, but also the very simple quality of the Surrey system and the opening of the number 2 spot alongside Burns of all people. If my knowledge serves correctly, after Mark Stoneman left for Middlesex, it was between Ryan Patel and Cameron Steel for the opening spot, so hardly the peak of quality batting you’d expect at Surrey. Of course, since then we’ve seen Sibley fill this fairly vacant spot successfully, Patel try and largely fail giving him some time on the sidelines, and Steel somehow discover how to bowl again

 

[High Dyke]

So Pennington misses out on test debut at his home ground. Obviously the selectors know better. Don't get me wrong Wood is a good bowler, but surely having a bowler that plays regularly at the venue where the particular test is makes sense?

 

[Busaholic]

Agreed to an extent, but also the very simple quality of the Surrey system and the opening of the number 2 spot alongside Burns of all people. If my knowledge serves correctly, after Mark Stoneman left for Middlesex, it was between Ryan Patel and Cameron Steel for the opening spot, so hardly the peak of quality batting you’d expect at Surrey. Of course, since then we’ve seen Sibley fill this fairly vacant spot successfully, Patel try and largely fail giving him some time on the sidelines, and Steel somehow discover how to bowl again

He's also a decent slip, better than Burns anyway - the latter's fielding was always going to end his England career unless he produced Brook-like innings. Simon Hughes in Sunday Times yesterday was saying that with Anderson's retirement, the only old-time swing bowler he could think of left in English county cricket was Worrall of Surrey, who I believe qualifies for England next year, unlikely though it is he'll get selected because of his age.

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So Pennington misses out on test debut at his home ground. Obviously the selectors know better. Don't get me wrong Wood is a good bowler, but surely having a bowler that plays regularly at the venue where the particular test is makes sense?

I was a bit surprised too, but it's only been his home ground since the start of the season.

 

[SuspectUsual]

So Pennington misses out on test debut at his home ground. Obviously the selectors know better. Don't get me wrong Wood is a good bowler, but surely having a bowler that plays regularly at the venue where the particular test is makes sense?

This is Pennington’s first season at Notts and (I think) he’s played five home first class games for them. Mark Wood has probably played more first class games there

 

[HST43257]

Simon Hughes in Sunday Times yesterday was saying that with Anderson's retirement, the only old-time swing bowler he could think of left in English county cricket was Worrall of Surrey, who I believe qualifies for England next year, unlikely though it is he'll get selected because of his age.

Wow! A quality Aussie seamer qualifying for England, who are looking ahead to… oh! An Aussie-located Ashes!

Frankly I don’t care if he’s 33, or 34 by then. He qualifies in April 2025 so if he has a continued good run in the champ in the run-in this season and the first couple months next season he is playing that India home series and that Australia away series.

 

[Busaholic]

Wow! A quality Aussie seamer qualifying for England, who are looking ahead to… oh! An Aussie-located Ashes!

Frankly I don’t care if he’s 33, or 34 by then. He qualifies in April 2025 so if he has a continued good run in the champ in the run-in this season and the first couple months next season he is playing that India home series and that Australia away series.

Although I'm not a Surrey supporter, and with the qualification you make about a good run, I'd see the sense in that too. My team is the struggling Kent, which I honestly believe has the weakest squad in the nearly seventy years I've been following them.