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Harvey B said:
Any update on when the 333s will get TrainFX?

And will a few of them still have the Siemens PIS system when they start running Doncasters?
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October is the word in the cess, as to where, well, I have heard twitterings but not confirmed yet.
 
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reecestrains said:
Nope, and at this rate it's likely they'll still be on them when they start doing Doncaster later this year.
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Fingers Crossed. The Old PIS stays for long enough. Im hoping to do the Doncaster line when they start running them and I'm hoping I can get the old Announcements while I can
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October is the word in the cess, as to where, well, I have heard twitterings but not confirmed yet.
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Cheers. Hopefully that'll mean a few of them will still have the Siemens system when they start running Doncasters in December
 
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GhostManDN91 said:
Out of curiosity. Can you get decent speeds between stops on the Leeds to Doncaster stopping service?
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Yes. Certainly between Wakefield and Adwick 100mph is easily achievable where the line speed allows.
 
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Ben Anslow said:
Anyone know when 156478 will enter service had it 2 weeks now and it’s not been out
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Not for a while yet. Still needs Northern mods and conversion exams into the Northern maintenance regime to be completed, plus the wheels aren't too good so needs a few tyres.
 
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Looks like there is a path back for 156468 back from Wolverton 5E12 1049 Wolverton to Heaton. As yet there is no return working.

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Sorry didn't say which date,it is intact tomorrow

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0941 return now in the system down to Wolverton anyone know which one due to go

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Does diligentdave know which 156 is going to Wolverton on Sunday. MTIA

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Can confirm 156444 has gone to Wolverton today.
 
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Apologies if I've missed this- what's the plan (if any) for refurbishment/repainting of the ex-WM 323s now with Northern?
 
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I think Dave posted a few weeks back there is currently no funding for anything (even a paint job) on the 323s but it's being looked into?
 
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Geeves said:
I think Dave posted a few weeks back there is currently no funding for anything (even a paint job) on the 323s but it's being looked into?
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There's been quite a lot happening in the background since I wrote that. The ex-WMT 323's will now be getting painted into Northern livery (only) with 323205 being the first unit due in on 2nd Sept. Interior refresh is a different subject and still open for discussions.
 
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diligentdave said:
There's been quite a lot happening in the background since I wrote that. The ex-WMT 323's will now be getting painted into Northern livery (only) with 323205 being the first unit due in on 2nd Sept. Interior refresh is a different subject and still open for discussions.
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So, Will an interior refresh still happen at some point down the line?
(even if it's a few years down the line)
 
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I've just seen a photo of a 333 unit with a smashed up cab? Does anyone know the unit number and what happened to it? (Here's the photo and website for context) https://penline.co.uk/traction-blog-july-2024/
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158752 is now at Kilmarnock for C6 (involving internal and external refresh as well as mechanical work).

Brodie Engineering recently welcomed the first of 8 Northern Class 158 Units into its Caledonia Works for C6 Overhaul, Interior Refresh and Exterior Paint and Re-livery. The units leased via Porterbrook will go through an extensive C6 programme including a range of examination and overhaul tasks on areas including bodysides, cabs, windows, electrical circuitry such as relays/MCB's, doors, flooring, toilets, gangways, interior seating and furniture. Pictured below - Unit 158752 prepped for paint and carriage interior strip out works. #engineering#railway#rollingstock#success
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Harvey B said:
Is there a reason why they are doing another refurbishment/repaint on this unit? Wasn't this refurbished and repainted a few years ago?
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This is a periodic major overhaul, including repair to bodywork so the unit would need repainting after the work. In addition, the 3 car 158s were some was of the very first Arriva repaints with 752 being done in September 2016, so after 8 years a repaint is due anyway.

If you're taking everything out for overhaul you might as well freshen the interior up - some of the 3 cars never got fully painted internally too.

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Oh no! Does that mean that the three car units will now have their comfy original seats replaced by those ghastly Fainsa Sophias?
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I don't know the specifics of the work, I suspect the original seating will be retained unless it's cheaper to replace. @diligentdave will probably know though.
 
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skyhigh said:
This is a periodic major overhaul, including repair to bodywork so the unit would need repainting after the work. In addition, the 3 car 158s were some was of the very first Arriva repaints with 752 being done in September 2016, so after 8 years a repaint is due anyway.

If you're taking everything out for overhaul you might as well freshen the interior up - some of the 3 cars never got fully painted internally too.


I don't know the specifics of the work, I suspect the original seating will be retained unless it's cheaper to replace. @diligentdave will probably know though.
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No, there's no plans to fit Fainsa seat on the 3 cars. They will retain their normal seats.
 
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One of the ex-EMR 156s has recently been reupholstered with blue Northern moquette, but with no additional interior works (panels/carpets etc.).
 
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td97 said:
One of the ex-EMR 156s has recently been reupholstered with blue Northern moquette, but with no additional interior works (panels/carpets etc.).
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I hope the padding has been sorted too, I was on 408 the other day and you could feel the seat frame.
 
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