ECML blocked Stevenage - Hitchin (09/08 and 10/08))

[43066]

I'd say no chance of it running from London, based on the LNER website service updates. When I looked a few minutes go it listed in the region of 50 cancellations, and was suggesting passengers defer travel until tomorrow (Sunday) if possible.

It might start at Peterborough or somewhere further north, but getting to Peterborough from London by any means other than the A1 I'd say is a non-starter. York via Manchester (Avanti and TPE, subject to ticket acceptance of course) could be an option.

Either way, good luck.

There is fairly comprehensive ticket acceptance in place according to LNER’s website: Avanti and EMR from London, TPE, XC and Northern further north.

 

[MontyP]

I need to get to Leeds this morning, is it best to go from Euston via Manc or St P via Sheffield? Worried that the EMR trains will be completely full!

 

[Deafdoggie]

I'd say no chance of it running from London, based on the LNER website service updates. When I looked a few minutes go it listed in the region of 50 cancellations

Everything cancelled till 09:30. It is if we think 09:30 is realistic for things to start up again. But, currently, nothing cancelled after 09:30

Either way, good luck.

Thank you

 

[Tram203]

I need to get to Leeds this morning, is it best to go from Euston via Manc or St P via Sheffield? Worried that the EMR trains will be completely full!

Personally I'd go from Euston via Manchester as those will be either 9 or 11 car trains, but any alternative route will be busy I'd think.

 

[M60lad]

Getting to/from London this morning could be challenging as despite LNER saying you can travel via Avanti and TPE to York Avanti are only running 2 trains per hour this weekend to/from Manchester due to the fact the line via Stoke-On-Trent is closed for engineering works and all services diverted via Crewe and Stafford.

Also added to this its the FA Charity Shield Manchester City v Manchester United at Wembley so this itself will generate additional passengers on WCML from Manchester.

 

[43066]

Personally I'd go from Euston via Manchester as those will be either 9 or 11 car trains, but any alternative route will be busy I'd think.

Some EMR services will be ten cars - worth aiming for those!

 

[ainsworth74]

Everything cancelled till 09:30. It is if we think 09:30 is realistic for things to start up again. But, currently, nothing cancelled after 09:30

It was everything until 0900 about fifteen minutes ago, so cancellations are creeping forward which isn't a good sign.

 

[jon0844]

The 387 was towed at 5mph to WGC and I thought it funny that the loco is Great Western and the front set a GWR 387...

 

[Tram203]

It was everything until 0900 about fifteen minutes ago, so cancellations are creeping forward which isn't a good sign.

I'd expect it to keep slipping too, to the point that today is a write off as far as a normal service is concerned. I hope I'm wrong, but I suspect LNER think this too hence why they're already (before 8am) suggesting people defer travel until tomorrow.

As for the 1200 Inverness, I highly they'll be anything in London stock or crew wise to form it.

The passenger requiring Leeds, nothing 10-car from St. Pancras to Sheffield until 1102 that I can see, arriving Sheffield 1pm, so probably too late for them.

 

[arb]

It might start at Peterborough or somewhere further north, but getting to Peterborough from London by any means other than the A1 I'd say is a non-starter

Liverpool Street to Cambridge to Ely to Peterborough is the obvious way to do that if you absolutely have to, but likely to be insanely crowded between Ely and Peterborough if everybody does that! No idea if tickets are valid that way either.

 

[ainsworth74]

I'd expect it to keep slipping too, to the point that today is a write off as far as a normal service is concerned. I hope I'm wrong, but I suspect LNER think this too hence why they're already (before 8am) suggesting people defer travel until tomorrow.

Agreed, I'd be jumping on LNERs website and trying to grab fresh reservations for tomorrow rather than travelling today unless absolutely necessary.

 

[Tram203]

Liverpool Street to Cambridge to Ely to Peterborough is the obvious way to do that if you absolutely have to, but likely to be insanely crowded between Ely and Peterborough if everybody does that! No idea if tickets are valid that way either.

No ticket acceptance between Ely and Peterborough from what I can see.

Indeed, none via Cambridge at all for LNER passengers.

Source - LNER website, which incidentally now states major disruption expected until the end of the day.

 

[MontyP]

Personally I'd go from Euston via Manchester as those will be either 9 or 11 car trains, but any alternative route will be busy I'd think.

Cheers, I'm just leaving Euston to Manchester and it's mostly empty in my carriage surprisingly

 

[800001]

Been told D28 too at Hitchin area. That'll be two today.

Been a mess of a day for everyone involved.

2 what? D28 didn’t evacuation of the 2C55

 

[700720]

Yep, disruption is now expected until the end of the day. I hope it’s fixed by the time I’m heading into London (Sunday), because with the ECML closed the GA services to Liverpool St will be packed to the brim!

 

[800001]

Everything till 09:30 appears to be currently cancelled on LNER.

We're booked on 12:00 to Inverness. What do people rate the chances of that running?

I would say good chance!

1Y11 first LNER from Newcastle to run through to London, others after that also running.

See for Inverness normally comes from Skipton, but that service cancelled.

However 1N33 last night was cancelled and set went to Biunds Green, this should be a bimode, so there is potential for that to be used.

The crew will be there for it.

Twitter team also saying it’s due to run when someone has asked.

 

[riceuten]

Only Moorgate trains operating from Stevenage presently.

 

[island]

There is fairly comprehensive ticket acceptance in place according to LNER’s website: Avanti and EMR from London, TPE, XC and Northern further north.

LNER's website does not indicate any acceptance whatsoever for passengers wishing to get to or from Scotland.

As of right now it says:

You can use your ticket on the following services at no extra cost:

• Avanti West Coast between London Euston and Manchester
• TransPennine Express between Manchester, Leeds and York / Newcastle
• East Midlands Railway between London St Pancras International and Sheffield
• Northern via any reasonable route, including services from Sheffield, Manchester, Leeds
• CrossCountry between Darlington / York and Sheffield to connect with services to London St Pancras International

What a passenger for Edinburgh or beyond is supposed to do, other than "travel tomorrow", is not addressed.

Even Lumo, who tend to get annihilated on these forums for their disruption handling, have done better and arranged acceptance on Avanti from Euston to Manchester and TransPennine onward to Newcastle and Edinburgh.

 

[Falcon1200]

Turned off OHL is still dangerous even when laid on ground, it can still have residual current of several thousand volts.

Indeed. Although the power is switched off, and/or as in this case tripped out due to the wires being down, until fully earthed the overheads are 'safe to approach but not to touch'; The form of words we (Control) used when such incidents occurred.

 

[35B]

1A91 been sitting for 4.5hrs in the middle of Hitchin Stn surely they could have evacuated across to the Up platform side safely out of one or two doors. I can see 1T51 sitting in the platform but it wont be more than 8 coaches.

I have been on a rescue train, moving passengers off a failed train. It took a surprisingly long time to get a train full of people through 1 door and walked down our train. With shunting forward and back to a detrainment point, it was probably 90 minutes - plus the delay we already suffered.

 

[barringtoncem]

I Had a trip planned to London for today for a Hidden London Tour but as soon as i saw the information about the incident i cancelled
my plans for the day

 

[800001]

LNER's website does not indicate any acceptance whatsoever for passengers wishing to get to or from Scotland.

As of right now it says:

What a passenger for Edinburgh or beyond is supposed to do, other than "travel tomorrow", is not addressed.

Even Lumo, who tend to get annihilated on these forums for their disruption handling, have done better and arranged acceptance on Avanti from Euston to Manchester and TransPennine onward to Newcastle and Edinburgh.

Avanti London to Manchester, TPE Manchester to York, then LNER York to Edinburgh! There sorted!

So basically the same advice as Lumo that you quote!

LNER also due to start running Edinburgh services from 10:00, starting with the Aberdeen.

Lumo also due to run the 10:25 to Edinburgh.

 

[Babybirdrobin]

Should the 10:00 London to Aberdeen be running tommorow or will stock prohibit it?

 

[island]

Avanti London to Manchester, TPE Manchester to York, then LNER York to Edinburgh! There sorted!

Yup. That's what I get for decaffeinated posting

 

[800001]

Should the 10:00 London to Aberdeen be running tommorow or will stock prohibit it?

Tomorrow as in Sunday?

Services from King’s Cross restart at 10:00 this morning which happens to be an Aberdeen service.

 

[55002]

I would say good chance!

1Y11 first LNER from Newcastle to run through to London, others after that also running.

See for Inverness normally comes from Skipton, but that service cancelled.

However 1N33 last night was cancelled and set went to Biunds Green, this should be a bimode, so there is potential for that to be used.

The crew will be there for it.

Twitter team also saying it’s due to run when someone has asked.

1Y11 terminating at Peterborough according to LNER website..1E02 potentially the first. Sounds a bad dewirement this one

 

[800001]

1Y11 terminating at Peterborough according to LNER website..1E02 potentially the first. Sounds a bad dewirement this one

Ah, I had done wheat I would advise people not to do, and checked RTT oops

Kings Cross departure board (on Tiger) has the 10;00 as running though.

 

[55002]

Ah, I had done wheat I would advise people not to do, and checked RTT oops

Kings Cross departure board (on Tiger) has the 10;00 as running though.

Haha you have better information than most of us on here regarding ECML so I wouldn’t worry..

they have just tweeted that 1A15 is going all the way now and changed their website to show 1Y11 also going through, so you way ahead of the game!
edit in fact looks 1A09 going to go through also

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

LNER's website does not indicate any acceptance whatsoever for passengers wishing to get to or from Scotland.

Avanti London to Manchester, TPE Manchester to York, then LNER York to Edinburgh! There sorted!
So basically the same advice as Lumo that you quote!

The linked map in the LNER advice on alternative routes does show the WCML to Scotland.
I also think TPE Manchester-WCML-Scotland is specifically mentioned in the advice somewhere (in the Lumo advice).
But at least some ECML services soon to be restored seemingly.

 

[Banham7]

It has been stated on TOC disruption pages that lines are not expected to reopen until midday. I’d suspect trains still showing that they are running from KGX before then will either be altered/cancelled at short notice.

It would be so useful starting/terminating some services from LST and running via CBG in this disruption but sadly LNER have only done this once as a test run so I very much doubt it will be happening at all.