Ex LNER (and Grand Central) Mark 4 sets for TfW

[Jacob Porrett]

Today at Crewe depot that I've seen (2/9/24):

67025 HD03 - since has left the depot
67015 HD01
67020 HD02
67017 HD04

All three above ^ are on depot at the moment.

 

[37052 xb mr]

Please does anyone know which loco & set worked 1V50 forward from Crewe
To Swansea, Thanks

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Please does anyone know which loco & set worked 1V50 forward from Crewe
To Swansea, Thanks

It’s ok just seen above post
Thanks

 

[BillStampy]

Please does anyone know which loco & set worked 1V50 forward from Crewe
To Swansea, Thanks

From my knowledge, 67025 + HD03

 

[Western 52]

67010 seems to be losing a lot of time on 1W55 today. Anyone know what the issue is?

Realtime Trains | 1W55 0849 Cardiff Central to Crewe | 03/09/2024

Real-time train running information for 1W55 0849 departure from Cardiff Central to Crewe on 03/09/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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[JakeMurphy]

67010 seems to be losing a lot of time on 1W55 today. Anyone know what the issue is?

Realtime Trains | 1W55 0849 Cardiff Central to Crewe | 03/09/2024

Real-time train running information for 1W55 0849 departure from Cardiff Central to Crewe on 03/09/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Replaced with 153382+153922 at Crewe, restarting as 1Z55.

 

[Jamesrob637]

Replaced with 153382+153922 at Crewe, restarting as 1Z55.

Only Crewe to Manchester and back on 153s though. Could be worse.

 

[Topological]

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Only Crewe to Manchester and back on 153s though. Could be worse

Interesting.

I wonder why they bothered to replace it. Normally it is just a case of push passengers to either Northern or Avanti?

 

[AndrewE]

That

Interesting.

I wonder why they bothered to replace it. Normally it is just a case of push passengers to either Northern or Avanti?

maybe they are getting soime stick for not bothering to serve Manchester so often? Could even be costing them money...

 

[sd0733]

Only Crewe to Manchester and back on 153s though. Could be worse

That was the idea but it didn't end up working out like that.
There was a planned loco swap with 010 coming off and being replaced by 017 in the downtime of going to Manchester, unfortunately it didn't really work out and the 153s continued to Cardiff.

 

[Welshguy1048]

Afternoon

Anyone know which set and 67 is on 1W96 tonight please?

Thank you

Dave

 

[BillStampy]

Afternoon

Anyone know which set and 67 is on 1W96 tonight please?

Thank you

Dave

Planned to be 67025 + HD03

 

[Welshguy1048]

Thank you @BillStampy

Appreciate it.

Dave

 

[Jacob Porrett]

Today at Crewe depot (3/9/24)
67015 HD01
67020 HD02 - going out tomorrow morning.
67010 HD04
67017 HD07 - loco has a fuel leak and are resolving the issue.

It's not great that pretty much half the rakes are at Crewe sitting doing nothing (exceptions of exams/issues etc.) when they should be in service.

 

[BillStampy]

Believe 67022 + HD06 is causing havoc on the Marches, seems to have vanished and showing as a broken down train between Shrewsbury and Hereford. 1V50, 67008 + HD05 is now also being delayed at Shrewsbury, most likely if it takes too long, won't end up headed to Swansea.

 

[cambsy]

Why are the 67+MK4 sets so unreliable at moment?and will TFW get on top of it? And the catering unreliable too. As booked today on 17.14 Cardiff-Holyhead and return Tomorrow 05.30 Holyhead-Cardiff which switched to Thursday and Friday,same trains so as to try get full meal service.

 

[JakeMurphy]

Believe 67022 + HD06 is causing havoc on the Marches, seems to have vanished and showing as a broken down train between Shrewsbury and Hereford. 1V50, 67008 + HD05 is now also being delayed at Shrewsbury, most likely if it takes too long, won't end up headed to Swansea.

It’s 197109 that’s broken down on 1V96.

 

[BillStampy]

It’s 197109 that’s broken down on 1V96.

Oh nevermind then, just assumed as the sets are not behaving at the moment.. at least we're not losing one again!

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Unsure what that's going to do to the diagram though. HD03 is sat at Abergavenny, 06 is stuck behind 109, 05 is at Shrewsbury... one set has to get back to Canton and now journeycheck is saying disruption is expected until the end of the day. I wouldn't be surprised if 06 has stopped at a station somewhere to get everyone off as that is NOT moving.

 

[sd0733]

Oh nevermind then, just assumed as the sets are not behaving at the moment.. at least we're not losing one again!

Ironically having sets not in service and heading upto to Crewe tonight has been a blessing in disguise with the failed 197 as sets would have been out of place, no Mk4s will be now so all 4 diagrams are in place for tomorrow.

1V96 has now stood for almost 3 and a half hours, up there with the very worst of delays caused by any Mk4 set.

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I wouldn't be surprised if 06 has stopped at a station somewhere to get everyone off as that is NOT moving.

Looking at implementing single line working to get 1V46 past the striken 197.

 

[BillStampy]

Ironically having sets not in service and heading upto to Crewe tonight has been a blessing in disguise with the failed 197 as sets would have been out of place, no Mk4s will be now so all 4 diagrams are in place for tomorrow.

1V96 has now stood for almost 3 and a half hours, up there with the very worst of delays caused by any Mk4 set.

Oh! How interesting. But isn't Crewe full..? HD02, 04, 07 and 01 are all currently there. Is 05 going to head back to Canton to balance it too? It might have to wait a while.

 

[sd0733]

Oh! How interesting. But isn't Crewe full..? HD02, 04, 07 and 01 are all currently there. Is 05 going to head back to Canton to balance it too? It might have to wait a while.

Yes I meant to say no sets heading to Crewe!
5 and 6 are both finishing at Canton tonight with 05 being tomorrow's spare.

 

[BillStampy]

HD03 has woken up and is now moving from Abergavenny 75 minutes down.

 

[sd0733]

HD03 has woken up and is now moving from Abergavenny 75 minutes down.

Everything was being held in stations while the northbound line was cleared by rescue set 1Z99 heading to the failure.

 

[Harpo]

Be interesting to understand how/why the 197 has become completely disabled. I assume that ordinarily a ‘mechanical only’ or similar coupling option is available to shift a failed 197?

 

[Lurcheroo]

Be interesting to understand how/why the 197 has become completely disabled. I assume that ordinarily a ‘mechanical only’ or similar coupling option is available to shift a failed 197?

Depends on the failure type, and that also determines permissible speed.

 

[D6130]

Depends on the failure type, and that also determines permissible speed.

If it's mechanically coupled only - with no through brake connection - you're looking at 5 mph maximum....or that was the case when I was driving.

 

[BillStampy]

Yes I meant to say no sets heading to Crewe!
5 and 6 are both finishing at Canton tonight with 05 being tomorrow's spare.

HD05 seems to not care and has gone backwards back to Crewe on 5V50..
Unsure what they'll do now!
Unless that isn't HD05, which I'd be heavily surprised.

 

[Western 52]

There's a 2000 Craven Arms to Cardiff 1Z46. Is that a MK4 set?

 

[sd0733]

HD05 seems to not care and has gone backwards back to Crewe on 5V50..
Unsure what they'll do now!
Unless that isn't HD05, which I'd be heavily surprised.

It is HD05. Plans have changed and it should now do 1V31/1W55/1V42 tomorrow with HD02 doing the other Crewe start, HD03 Holyhead start and HD06 on Canton start.

HD07 is back out of use with the fuel leak mentioned by @Jacob Porrett on 67017 meaning that may need to returm to DB for repair.

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There's a 2000 Craven Arms to Cardiff 1Z46. Is that a MK4 set?

Believe it's a restarted 1V46. It ended up being shunted into the loop to allow the Heart of Wales unit through so running on a different head code.

 

[37052 xb mr]

Does anyone know what was the issue
With 67010 this morning please
Thanks

 

[BillStampy]

It is HD05. Plans have changed and it should now do 1V31/1W55/1V42 tomorrow with HD02 doing the other Crewe start, HD03 Holyhead start and HD06 on Canton start.

HD07 is back out of use with the fuel leak mentioned by @Jacob Porrett on 67017 meaning that may need to returm to DB for repair.

Believe it's a restarted 1V46. It ended up being shunted into the loop to allow the Heart of Wales unit through so running on a different head code.

Well that aged well with 07, at least it isn't a set problem.

Good to see the diagrams being fulfilled tomorrow on the Crewe start and HD02 is back out. Still behaving mostly okay, despite a hiccup not too long ago.

Good on Transport for Wales for restarting the service and leaving people stranded instead of running it empty back to Canton