NYMR news and updates.

[kje7812]

Whilst having a quiet " google" I noticed that membership of the NYMR supporters group is £40 a go. Is this one of, or the highest, of the heritage railways?

Certainly quite high. For instance, the SVR is £31, KWVR £35 and Ffestiniog £37. Of course the differing benefits make comparison a little difficult. KWVR offer 3 free tickets plus 50% discount. FR is 10 free tickets. SVR is 33% off, while the NYMR is 50% off but not the Annual Pass which is £49.50.

 

[jamestclarkson]

Does anyone have any information on what Steam Locos being overhauled and progress? I feel this year we havent had much of an update with the fleet. And with 2 mainline registered locos out of ticket in the past year and another mainline registered with a prolonged winter maintenance I understand peoples frustration with a Class 25 or 31 to Whitby.

 

[John Webb]

Watching the webcams over the last couple of weeks I notice that many of the trains travelling from Grosmont to Goathland are taking about 15 minutes rather than the previous 11-12 minutes. Also 'The Moorlander' has sometimes had a banking engine between the two stations. Is there some form of temporary speed restriction requiring them to slow down at some point on the climb?

 

[Iskra]

Watching the webcams over the last couple of weeks I notice that many of the trains travelling from Grosmont to Goathland are taking about 15 minutes rather than the previous 11-12 minutes. Also 'The Moorlander' has sometimes had a banking engine between the two stations. Is there some form of temporary speed restriction requiring them to slow down at some point on the climb?

I felt it was slower when I did it a few weeks ago, but on re-watching the run, I can’t noticeably discern anywhere that seems to be slower

Does anyone have any information on what Steam Locos being overhauled and progress? I feel this year we havent had much of an update with the fleet. And with 2 mainline registered locos out of ticket in the past year and another mainline registered with a prolonged winter maintenance I understand peoples frustration with a Class 25 or 31 to Whitby.

I think the NYMR are managing this well, so that every train seems to get a steam loco for at least some of the journey, to keep everyone happy. At least that’s my perception of what they are doing, it may not be the reality?

 

[ricj]

Does anyone have any information on what Steam Locos being overhauled and progress? I feel this year we havent had much of an update with the fleet. And with 2 mainline registered locos out of ticket in the past year and another mainline registered with a prolonged winter maintenance I understand peoples frustration with a Class 25 or 31 to Whitby.

I have been wondering this for a while too, especially when it comes to Hartland. That loco appears to have been sitting in limbo for absolutely years now with seemingly no interest whatsoever on the NYMR's part in providing any news or updates on its situation.

I did notice a few days ago that Dame Vera Lynn has been moved and the boiler separated from the chassis so that's encouraging. It seems the conversion to oil firing might've resulted in extra interest and potentially funding to speed that along.

Other than that, Repton is close to a return to service.

 

[John Webb]

I felt it was slower when I did it a few weeks ago, but on re-watching the run, I can’t noticeably discern anywhere that seems to be slower.....

Your run between my timing points (starting to move at Grosmont to loco head reaching the catchpoint at Gothland) seems to be circa 13m 30s.
I wonder if they are running a little slower to save on fuel, perhaps?

 

[Ploughman]

It may be due to the current Fire Risk.
This area of the country is under a severe fire risk and so as part of the Firecon conditions restrictions are made on how locos are handled.

 

[BrunswickGreen]

From my observations a banker or pilot engine has been provided when 2392 has been rostered on the dining train for the Grosmont-Goathland section.(see the daily loco roster). I believe NELPG used have a load limit for the loco. The diner always used to be stabled in platform 4 from which it departed and then returned, slight change this year I have noticed the set being pulled out of platform 4 and then propelled into platform 3 for departure. Presumably there is an operational reason for this procedure? As always happy to be corrected if I have got my facts wrong.

 

[lauderlight]

From my observations a banker or pilot engine has been provided when 2392 has been rostered on the dining train for the Grosmont-Goathland section.(see the daily loco roster). I believe NELPG used have a load limit for the loco. The diner always used to be stabled in platform 4 from which it departed and then returned, slight change this year I have noticed the set being pulled out of platform 4 and then propelled into platform 3 for departure. Presumably there is an operational reason for this procedure? As always happy to be corrected if I have got my facts wrong

Platform 4 is currently a dead end siding as the north end has suffered some subsidence from old iron ore workings.

2392 on tuesday was suffering from priming and promptly spewed it's guts up at the bottom of the bank. Every time the regulator was put into big valve, it primed so it had to plod up the bank. Still finished the day with an on time arrival at Pickering at 17.50.

 

[BrunswickGreen]

Platform 4 is currently a dead end siding as the north end has suffered some subsidence from old iron ore workings.

2392 on tuesday was suffering from priming and promptly spewed it's guts up at the bottom of the bank. Every time the regulator was put into big valve, it primed so it had to plod up the bank. Still finished the day with an on time arrival at Pickering at 17.50.

Thank you for your reply, I did wonder whether there was a track issue at the north end of the platform.

 

[Iskra]

Pendennis Castle no longer attending the steam gala according to NYMR Twitter/X

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We regret to announce that No. 4079 Pendennis Castle will not be attending our Annual Steam Gala

We are still looking forward to our Annual Steam Gala & are actively looking for a standout replacement.

NYMR Website:

Withdrawal of No. 4079 'Pendennis Castle' from Annual Steam Gala

We regrets to announce that No. 4079 Pendennis Castle will no longer be attending the Annual Steam Gala.

www.nymr.co.uk

We regret to announce that No. 4079 Pendennis Castle will no longer be attending the Annual Steam Gala as a guest locomotive. This decision follows a recent announcement by Didcot Railway Centre (DRC).

A spokesperson from Didcot Railway Centre, said, "During the summer operation here at Didcot, we have noticed some issues with possible boiler water carry over into the cylinders of Great Western Society owned steam locomotive 4079, Pendennis Castle. These issues were kept under strict observation, pending the end of the August operating season at Didcot after which work could then be carried out.

Having completed some initial investigative work into what the issues may be, a number of concerns have been highlighted. Due to the nature of the investigations and work needed, the society has sadly taken the decision to withdraw the engine from service on a temporary basis. This unfortunately means Pendennis will not now be available to operate at Didcot or go on hire to other preserved railways until these assessments and work has been completed.

We know that this will be a disappointment to those who were expecting to see the engine operate in the near future, but we do need to prioritise the maintenance of this important historic engine for use and enjoyment for many years to come."

Laura Strangeway, CEO of North Yorkshire Moors Railway, commented, “We're obviously really disappointed but sympathise with Didcot Railway Centre - unfortunately, these things happen. We are actively looking for a standout replacement and will keep people informed of the updated line-up. We are still extremely excited for the upcoming Annual Steam Gala and can’t wait to welcome the rest of the guest locomotives, joining our home-fleet."

NYMR remains committed to delivering an exceptional experience for all visitors to the Annual Steam Gala and Beer Festival. Updates on the new guest locomotive and the final line-up for the event will be shared in due course.

Standard Fares for the Annual Steam Gala are 1 Day Adult (16+) - £49.50, 2 Day Adult (16+) - £89.50, 3 Day Adult (16+) - £118.50, 4 Day Adult (16+) - £138.50, and children aged 0-15 travel free.

For more information about services and updates, please visit our Annual Steam Gala page.

 

[Ryry]

Grosmont to pickering and pickering to Grosmont services cancelled until the 14th of September.
Nymr are only operating whitby to pickering and vise versa

 

[John Webb]

Grosmont to pickering and pickering to Grosmont services cancelled until the 14th of September.
Nymr are only operating whitby to pickering and vise versa

I've looked at the NYMR website and no reason is given. Anyone know why these 'Local' services have been cancelled? (They do say the 'Pullmans' will run.)

 

[kje7812]

There were concerns earlier in the year respect to the availability of coaches (mentioned in Moorsline). I've seen it suggested that this is due to that. The Whitby services are seen as a priority for the regular sets and the Pullmans are of course a separate set l.

 

[lauderlight]

I've looked at the NYMR website and no reason is given. Anyone know why these 'Local' services have been cancelled? (They do say the 'Pullmans' will run.)

Those 4 train times (1055/1235/1410/1640) are allocated to the P2 footplate diagram which is:

the second loco off new bridge yard (if steam, this is usually a small loco like P3(J27) or Lambton tank (29)
Short set (4/5 coaches)
P2 footplate diagram (0815-1925).

Possible causes are:
Problems with the steam locos (j27 was priming badly last week and wasn't long after washout. Also had injector problems earlier in the year)?
Low loadings now the summer holidays are over?
Staff (volunteer) shortages? Footplate has been struggling to fill vacancies on the roster during the red timetable, many filled at last minute or paid staff filling in ie fitters from mpd effectively being to drive or fire locos instead of repairing/overhauling them. better off knocking the turn off the diagram than using paid staff to fill the gaps?

not heard anything from my sources on facebook yet.

 

[paul1609]

Isnt it likely to be related to the Grosmont bridge closure (following the bus crash) and the lack of access from the A169 to the car park?

 

[Notabene]

Possible damage to carriages, apparently in shunting. 11 need examination/lifting etc

Nothing confirmed so far.

 

[John Webb]

Thanks for your replies!

 

[kje7812]

Possible damage to carriages, apparently in shunting. 11 need examination/lifting etc

Nothing confirmed so far.

Ouch if true.
Edit 06/09
Ah seen this post by the official NYMR FB page.

On Tuesday 3rd September 2024, there was a shunting incident in the sidings with no public access, at Pickering Station.

The safety of our staff and passengers is always top priority so the carriages involved in this incident
are being thoroughly inspected before going back into service.

We will be operating as normal with a reduced timetable and we will keep you updated as soon as we have more information available.

For more information visit www.nymr.co.uk

 

[grah2702]

From the NYMR web sight​

No. 4953 Pitchford Hall to replace No. 4079 Pendennis Castle for Annual Steam Gala​

 

[D Williams]

From the NYMR web sight​

No. 4953 Pitchford Hall to replace No. 4079 Pendennis Castle for Annual Steam Gala​

Wasn't Pitchford Hall for sale a couple of years ago?

 

[grah2702]

Wasn't Pitchford Hall for sale a couple of years ago?

Evidently visiting courtesy of the Epping Ongar Railway.

 

[jamestclarkson]

When do the other gala locomotives arrive at the NYMR?

 

[ricj]

Something or nothing?

Landslip close to North York Moors Railway line

 

[BrunswickGreen]

Pretty certain bridge in photo is on the Grosmont-Whitby line (NR). Happy to be corrected if wrong.

 

[Twingo37175]

Pretty certain bridge in photo is on the Grosmont-Whitby line (NR). Happy to be corrected if wrong.

I would second that, I think it is just before the line curves around for Sleights. If you look at River crossings of the Esk on wikipedia, bridge 51 is referenced as the penultimate bridge prior to the rad bridge at Sleights.

 

[BrunswickGreen]

I know that the NYMR was monitoring the bank on the Goathland side of bridge 30 due to a previous slip and I believe installed a remote camera to monitor the situation. The article is just another example of lazy journalism.

 

[Ploughman]

There is a potential slip site in Newtondale, on the NYMR, which has had sensors installed.

 

[grah2702]

After the last train of the day left Grosmont for Pickering there was a further train off NR delivering what appeared to be at least three coaches.The power on this was two class 43's one of which was 43423 both in very light blue livery with no discernable owner brandings and in a terrible state.

 

[ExRes]

After the last train of the day left Grosmont for Pickering there was a further train off NR delivering what appeared to be at least three coaches.The power on this was two class 43's one of which was 43423 both in very light blue livery with no discernable owner brandings and in a terrible state.

RailAdventure 43423 & 43467 delivering three coaches from Bo'Ness, the power cars are waiting for a repaint