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Ex WM 323s at Northern

Liam L

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Hey Guys just an update for you 323220 has now been painted in Northern Livery with rest to follow but still currently has WMR interior so looks pretty cool as a crossover transition with 323219 next as well as 323213 and 323205 already completed. Still see the other units they're still in WMR Debranded Livery.
Update: Just seen already been posted good to know will keep everyone updated on further units. As took some time to find new forum.
323208 & 323217 are currently in the paint shop
 
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Tuesday 19th November 2024.
Witnessed through both Tile Hill and Barnt Green.
5Q94 0959 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Long Marston.
37800 taking 323204 3323215 for Storage to Long Marston.

However so good to get videos and pictures of 323 on old stomping group in 2024 in a snow storm and through snow in a winter background.

So at least thanks to early snowfall today
323s have been through the old stomping ground ie Coventry and Cross city lines,
In 2024, in all seasons weather, however who would have thought that today's, scenes ie winter, wasn't possible ?
Or would 2024, finally see the 323s in all seasons weather in the final months.

However it was, so 323204 323215, bow out, into Long term Storage to
Long Marston on a Winters Tale,

So out of the 9 not going to Northern
Long Marston 323201 323204 323215 323216 323222 323240 Long term Storage.

Wolverton 323211 323214 323221 reggie still remain.
 

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Tuesday 19th November 2024.
Witnessed through both Tile Hill and Barnt Green.
5Q94 0959 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Long Marston.
37800 taking 323204 3323215 for Storage to Long Marston.

However so good to get videos and pictures of 323 on old stomping group in 2024 in a snow storm and through snow in a winter background.

So at least thanks to early snowfall today
323s have been through the old stomping ground ie Coventry and Cross city lines,
In 2024, in all seasons weather, however who would have thought that today's, scenes ie winter, wasn't possible ?
Or would 2024, finally see the 323s in all seasons weather in the final months.

However it was, so 323204 323215, bow out, into Long term Storage to
Long Marston on a Winters Tale,

So out of the 9 not going to Northern
Long Marston 323201 323204 323215 323216 323222 323240 Long term Storage.

Wolverton 323211 323214 323221 reggie still remain.
... and here they are at Kings Norton.

19Nov2024. Kings Norton. 323204 323215 37800 (Ex D6843). Snow. [P1210316]
by Ray Honke, on Flickr
 

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Keeping tabs on flicker and other sources in regards to the units which have gone to northern?

323243 seems to have disappeared as there been no photos or videos of it since it's left the West Midlands? Any ideas where it currently is?
 

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Pretty sure at Allerton but don’t quote me.
Can let you know in a few days if no one else does.
 

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Keeping tabs on flicker and other sources in regards to the units which have gone to northern?

323243 seems to have disappeared as there been no photos or videos of it since it's left the West Midlands? Any ideas where it currently is?
How odd! 323243 was the tenth WM unit to transfer to Northern. Along with 323207 it went to Wolverton on 28May and both transferred to Allerton on 31May. 323207 has been seen out and about since then, but as you say 323243 has just disappeared!
 

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323208 worked 5N36 12:45 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Allerton Depot and 323203 worked 5H70 17:18 Allerton Depot to Wolverton Centre Sidings yesterday 23/11/2024, both MK1 eyeball sightings by myself
 

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Cancelled due to a fault


Cancelled due to a fault

Both 323 worked. Maybe Northern need to procure 323 replacements before the end of the decade?
 

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37800 + 323221 + 323214 + 323211 5Q95 13:05 Wolverton to Long Marston currently running about an hour and 20 minutes down
Witnessed through Tile Hill, farewell to Wmr and Central livery 323 units on West Midlands centro lines,

Unless, of course one going for a respray to Wolverton, gets diverted via Birmingham International, if the wcml via Trent Valley is down.
 

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Cancelled due to a fault


Cancelled due to a fault

Both 323 worked. Maybe Northern need to procure 323 replacements before the end of the decade?
If we have to procure replacements for stock every time they have a failure of a unit or 2 within a fleet, we'd be seeing new trains on a weekly basis :lol:

777s are failing daily, 805s are failing daily, IETs are currently going through a process of maintenance owing to cracking issues - it doesn't matter the age or mileage of a train, they still fail.

I would be amazed if there is any plan to replace the 323s within the next 10 years to be honest, particularly when Northern's focus will be on the replacement of the sprinter stock
 

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Cancelled due to a fault


Cancelled due to a fault

Both 323 worked. Maybe Northern need to procure 323 replacements before the end of the decade?
I thought that the Hazel Grove services were DMU as they were in diagrams with Buxton services.
 

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I thought that the Hazel Grove services were DMU as they were in diagrams with Buxton services.
Some are, but look at the same 08:10 service yesterday, 323208

That entire diagram is booked 323
DIAGRAM: AN 107 SX 323/0 LTP
Runs From: 03/06/2024 Until: 13/12/2024
StockptCS 05+05 5K10FE AN102(1)\AN107(2)
ManchstrP 05+20 05+28 5H80FE
Macclsfld 05+55 06.17 2H80FA
ManchstrP 06.49 07+18 5H92FN
HazelGrve 08+06 08.10 2H92FN
ManchstrP 08.35 09.06 2K33FA
Crewe 09.58 10.16 2A85FA
ManchstrP 11.28 11.36 2A97FA
Crewe 12.39 12.46 2H47FA
ManchstrP 13.40 14.06 2K38FA
Crewe 14.58 15.16 2A80FB
ManchstrP 16.28 16.36 2A92FB
Crewe 17.40 17.46 2H42FB
ManchstrP 18.40 19.06 2K33FB
Crewe 19.58 20+03 5Y33FC
AllrtnDep 20+38
MILES: (LD) 311:40 (ETY) 73:00 (TOT) 384:40
as is the diagram for the 7:10 from Hazel Grove
DIAGRAM: AN 104 WSX 323/0 LTP
Runs From: 03/06/2024 Until: 13/12/2024
StockptCS 06+42 5H91FE
HazelGrve 07+04 07.10 2H91FN
ManchstrP 07.34 07.39 2K81FA
Alderley 08.07 08+09 5K81FA
Alderley 08+30 08.32 2H22FA
ManchstrP 09.02 09.38 2K83FA
Alderley 10.07 10+09 5K83FA
Alderley 10+30 10.33 2H24FA
ManchstrP 11.02 11.38 2K85FA
Alderley 12.07 12+09 5K85FA
Alderley 12+30 12.33 2H26FA
ManchstrP 13.02 13.38 2K87FA
Alderley 14.07 14+09 5K87FA
Alderley 14+30 14.33 2H28FA
ManchstrP 15.02 15.38 2K89FA
Alderley 16.07 16+09 5K89FA
Alderley 16+30 16.33 2H20FB
ManchstrP 17.02 17.38 2K81FB
Alderley 18.07 18+09 5K81FB
Alderley 18+30 18.33 2H22FB
ManchstrP 19.02 19.37 2K83FB
Alderley 20.07 20+09 5K83FB
Alderley 20+31 20.33 2H24FB
ManchstrP 21.02 23.37 2A05FA
Mancr Air 23.58
MILES: (LD) 208:00 (ETY) 19:00 (TOT) 227:00

on Wednesdays also runs ECS to Piccadilly
all other lines as per above
Mancr Air 23.58 00+42 5A05FA
ManchstrP 00+55
MILES: (LD) 208:00 (ETY) 29:00 (TOT) 237:00
Both diagrams both just run an early morning service, there is also diagram AN 105, which is the 18:22 arrival to Hazel Grove, also booked 323 (cancelled today due to no Guard)
 
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More of the ex-West Mids 323s are entering service with Northern. 323202, 323206 and 323218 have all appeared this week. 323202 is currently on Liverpool to Manchester Airport services, and 323218 is on the Manchester Piccadilly to Hadfield line today also.
 

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More of the ex-West Mids 323s are entering service with Northern. 323202, 323206 and 323218 have all appeared this week. 323202 is currently on Liverpool to Manchester Airport services, and 323218 is on the Manchester Piccadilly to Hadfield line today also.
Are all the ex WM in service with Northern refurbished to Northern spec? Are all in Northern livery?
Thanks
K
 

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Are all the ex WM in service with Northern refurbished to Northern spec? Are all in Northern livery?
Thanks
K
The ones in service all have Northern recorded announcements and information screens on. Only 323205, 323208, 323213 and 323220 are in Northern livery, however only 323213 has actually had an internal refurbishment to Northern interior.
 

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Are all the ex WM in service with Northern refurbished to Northern spec? Are all in Northern livery?
Thanks
K
Only repaints and digital mods. As mentioned in other thread, only 323213 has gained new seat covers so they have stock of WMT covers for the other 16

More of the ex-West Mids 323s are entering service with Northern. 323202, 323206 and 323218 have all appeared this week. 323202 is currently on Liverpool to Manchester Airport services, and 323218 is on the Manchester Piccadilly to Hadfield line today also.
On my list I have down

202,205,206,207,208,213,217,218,219,220 have now worked for northern

Yet to work
203,209,210,212,241,242,243
 
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LRV3004

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On my list I have down

202,205,206,207,208,213,217,218,219,220 have now worked for northern

Yet to work
203,209,210,212,241,242,243
I think 217 only worked one day and hasn’t worked since!!!!
 

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