Liam L
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It's currently at Wolverton for repaint
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Now that you mention it, I do recall seeing something about that on a Facebook post somewhere……..
childwallblues
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208 and 213 both operating out of Liverpool today to Manchester Airport and Wigan North Western respectively.
crosscity
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Today it looks like a 323 is on its way from Allerton to Wolverton to be painted.
Looks like the crew will bring one back to Allerton later.
Anyone know which ones they are?
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Looks like the crew will bring one back to Allerton later.
Anyone know which ones they are?
Realtime Trains | 5H70 0841 Allerton Depot to Wolverton Centre Sidings | 07/12/2024
Real-time train running information for 5H70 0841 departure from Allerton Depot to Wolverton Centre Sidings on 07/12/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Realtime Trains | 5N36 1317 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Allerton Depot | 07/12/2024
Real-time train running information for 5N36 1317 departure from Wolverton Centre Sidings to Allerton Depot on 07/12/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Liam L
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217 out more than likely as it first in our of the two there, unsure what's going inToday it looks like a 323 is on its way from Allerton to Wolverton to be painted.
Looks like the crew will bring one back to Allerton later.
Anyone know which ones they are?
Realtime Trains | 5H70 0841 Allerton Depot to Wolverton Centre Sidings | 07/12/2024
Real-time train running information for 5H70 0841 departure from Allerton Depot to Wolverton Centre Sidings on 07/12/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.Realtime Trains | 5N36 1317 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Allerton Depot | 07/12/2024
Real-time train running information for 5N36 1317 departure from Wolverton Centre Sidings to Allerton Depot on 07/12/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
crosscity
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Railcam now recording 5H70 as 212 (ie going to Wolverton for painting).
Railcam claims 217 too.
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323217 out today on the Manchester Airport to Liverpool Lime Street route.
Departures from Manchester Airport: 0732, 1132, 1532, 1932.
Departures from Liverpool Lime Street: 1000, 1400, 1800, 2108.
A friend of mine caught it to work this morning; he reports it’s in Northern livery with West Midlands interior.
Departures from Manchester Airport: 0732, 1132, 1532, 1932.
Departures from Liverpool Lime Street: 1000, 1400, 1800, 2108.
A friend of mine caught it to work this morning; he reports it’s in Northern livery with West Midlands interior.
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crosscity
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In their last months on the Birmingham Crosscity line the USB charging ports were the only way of telling which units were going to Northern.
How amusing that whilst being re-painted in its nice new Northern livery, 213 has new seat covers, but the charging ports have been removed!
323 Class
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There is no evidence that they were ever installed.
Liam L
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They wasn't, 213 was one of the 5 which was never done.
219/241/242/243 didn't have them installed either
crosscity
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I never knew that. Mind you, I didn't take much notice. If I saw the charging points I knew the unit was one of the chosen ones, and just assumed all would be done.
Liam L
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All 17 should of been done but imagine with WMR being quite short of units during the transition they couldn't release the remainder to be done
Liam L
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I imagine some more of the EX WMT units will enter service over the next few days with some Blackpool diagrams being changed into Double 323s... Best to keep a eye out on RTT for unit allocations!
Was surprised to see 206 in West mids livery to be honest as I checked RTT which showed it in Northern livery. The opposite of this is RTT showing the ex East mid 156s in their old livery long after repainting into Northern.
Liam L
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There isn't a WMT liveried 323 icon on RTT so they will show as northern ones
Thomas6187
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323242 is out today working one for the Blackpool diagrams. It's paired with 323232 on the 1017 Manchester Airport-Blackpool North
Liam L
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323210 is also out for the first time today
RailKnight786
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With 323210 and 323242 now having made their debuts for Northern, it just leaves 323203, 323209, 323212, 323241 and 323243 to work.
Livery wise, I have noted the following of the ex-West Mids transfers:
323202: West Midlands Trains
323203: Unknown
323205: Northern
323206: West Midlands Trains
323207: West Midlands Trains
323208: Northern
323209: Unknown
323210: West Midlands Trains
323212: Unknown (at Wolverton though)
323213: Northern
323217: Northern
323218: West Midlands Trains
323219: West Midlands Trains
323220: Northern
323241: Unknown
323242: West Midlands Trains
323243: Unknown
Of the ones marked “Unknown”, I am presuming they are in West Midlands Trains livery still, with the possible exception of 323212, which I have heard is at Wolverton so no doubt that will re-emerge in Northern livery.
Livery wise, I have noted the following of the ex-West Mids transfers:
323202: West Midlands Trains
323203: Unknown
323205: Northern
323206: West Midlands Trains
323207: West Midlands Trains
323208: Northern
323209: Unknown
323210: West Midlands Trains
323212: Unknown (at Wolverton though)
323213: Northern
323217: Northern
323218: West Midlands Trains
323219: West Midlands Trains
323220: Northern
323241: Unknown
323242: West Midlands Trains
323243: Unknown
Of the ones marked “Unknown”, I am presuming they are in West Midlands Trains livery still, with the possible exception of 323212, which I have heard is at Wolverton so no doubt that will re-emerge in Northern livery.
Liam L
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203 and 212 in for repaint
209,241,243 are WMT.
I believe 243 is the only one of the 17 not to have done anything since transfer, the rest have been moved around for training and service whilst 243 has been on Allerton since early June but happily to corrected if it's worked.
crosscity
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Ex-WM 323210 is on its way to Wolverton for painting today.
There’s a move coming back from Wolverton as well later - 323203 and/or 323212?
Potteries 323
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Saw 323203 at Crewe during a stop on platform 12.It still has WMT interior.
Seems, with the exception of 323213, this is how they’re all coming back! I believe they only did 213 internally so they would have a full spare set of WMT seating moquettes should any of the others with WMT interiors need reupholstering.
Liam L
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Yep, apart from 213. The rest are not being changed apart from Digital mods (USBs, Screens and counters) etc
Liam L - are there any plans to change the seating moquette to Northern in the long term do you know? Yes, the obvious changes are evident as you mention! The two slightly less obvious differences (certainly in the eyes of the regular non-enthusiast commuter anyway) between the ex WMT and original Northern units I’ve noticed are the bodyside window surrounds remaining white after repaint, and the main destination screens have bigger letters on the former WMT units.
Liam L
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Not a clue I'm afraid, The window surrounds on the Ex WMT ones were black when they was still around these parts and have been painted white with Northern for some reason.