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citybus2500

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Transfers from Manchester so far:
East:
11723-730
East Midlands:
10469-72
Midlands:
10685/11530
East Scotland:
10483
11531-541
19394-5
South:
10626-30
19327/328/333-35/337/338/340-46/348-351/365/390-92
South East:
11542-55
19404-07/09/12-18
48023/31
South Wales:
36778/81/85/86/89
South West:
19398
Yorkshire:
19419/426/447-54/456-59/461-69/471-79/514


Transfers to Manchester:
South West:
19001
Hasn't 10685 been at South (Andover) for a while?

There must be some series reductions for schools/Uni in Manchester for over 100 buses to be shipped out already! :)
 

mbonwick

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10685 is a typo for 10865.

Yes, major reductions - the Magicbus services have been dropped to a PVR of about 3(?) with the Uni finishing for Christmas. Using the time wisely to get as many vehicles out as possible to minimise the chaos on 5th January!

For completeness, should also be listed that Yorkshire 12091-107, 12161-79 have transferred/will transfer into Manchester albeit for service with Metroline. Surprised more E400Hs from other regions haven't moved if I'm honest.
 

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10685 is a typo for 10865.

Yes, major reductions - the Magicbus services have been dropped to a PVR of about 3(?) with the Uni finishing for Christmas. Using the time wisely to get as many vehicles out as possible to minimise the chaos on 5th January!

For completeness, should also be listed that Yorkshire 12091-107, 12161-79 have transferred/will transfer into Manchester albeit for service with Metroline. Surprised more E400Hs from other regions haven't moved if I'm honest.
As they’re for Metroline, I opted not to include them or the B5LH MMCs
 

Cavendish1

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Speaking of liveries, sad to see North Western 19407 go, hope the good people of Kent appreciate it!
 

CN12 AWU

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Not sure how true but I believe the plan for 57 buses to move to East Midlands on 4th Jan from Hyde Rd, Sharston and Ashton is now not happening as these 57 buses are going elsewhere, there will now only be a handful of buses moving which got collected last week

Can anyone confirm this?
 

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Not sure how true but I believe the plan for 57 buses to move to East Midlands on 4th Jan from Hyde Rd, Sharston and Ashton is now not happening as these 57 buses are going elsewhere, there will now only be a handful of buses moving which got collected last week

Can anyone confirm this?
Not sure if this is linked to a number of 192xx Enviro 400s sticking around for a bit on a short term loan to Metroline.
 

toms

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Anyone have any idea on what routes the new Stagecoach Enviro 100EVs and BZL SDs at Middleton Depot are going to be used for? I heard the E100s are going to be used on 475, 477 routes etc. Anyone have any concrete answers for this?
 
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Anyone have any idea on what routes the new Stagecoach Enviro 100EVs and BZL SDs at Middleton Depot are going to be used for? I heard the E100s are going to be used on 475, 477 routes etc. Anyone have any concrete answers for this?
The 475/477 are Queens Road routes, not Middleton.
 

mayneway

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Anyone have any idea on what routes the new Stagecoach Enviro 100EVs and BZL SDs at Middleton Depot are going to be used for? I heard the E100s are going to be used on 475, 477 routes etc. Anyone have any concrete answers for this?
The E100’s are for the freebus and are due to come into use at the end of January to coincide with a major re-write.

Someone said they were moving to Middleton
It’s never been confirmed but there was a suggestion the small bury routes 475/477/487 and 480 were moving to Middleton along with the Freebus. With the 156 and 56 moving the other way to Queens road.
 

Scotrail88

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The E100’s are for the freebus and are due to come into use at the end of January to coincide with a major re-write.


It’s never been confirmed but there was a suggestion the small bury routes 475/477/487 and 480 were moving to Middleton along with the Freebus. With the 156 and 56 moving the other way to Queens road.
What major re-write of free bus or is it all services ?
 

47550

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I read that the 4 Mellor Strata’s currently used on the Bury small bus routes were moving to Diamond for Tranche 3 work, so if the EVs are going to be used on these routes it will likely happen soon.
 
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The E100’s are for the freebus and are due to come into use at the end of January to coincide with a major re-write.


It’s never been confirmed but there was a suggestion the small bury routes 475/477/487 and 480 were moving to Middleton along with the Freebus. With the 156 and 56 moving the other way to Queens road.
I have heard that the free bus needs a minimum of full size single deckers nowadays though?
 

mayneway

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I have heard that the free bus needs a minimum of full size single deckers nowadays though?
The contract spec is still for ‘midi’s. When the Versa’s were dramatically withdrawn TFGM agreed to fund a number of E200’s that were moved over from Stockport and Middleton.
Although they rarely get used on the Freebus they are intended for that service, however the E100’s are most defiantly for the Freebus!

What major re-write of free bus or is it all services ?
It’s a major re-write for all services. The Freebus has already had its re-write so should only see minor tweaks.

I read that the 4 Mellor Strata’s currently used on the Bury small bus routes were moving to Diamond for Tranche 3 work, so if the EVs are going to be used on these routes it will likely happen soon.
Diamond are getting brand new Mellor’s, some already delivered some still being finished at the factory in Rochdale. The 4 at Stagecoach are staying put as they are the only suitable vehicles for the 475/477.
 

CN12 AWU

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Are there yet any confirmation of which buses on 4th January are moving to East Midlands and what depots I believe 50approx were due to move?

Is there anybody in the know who can confirm how many and which East Midlands Depots?
 

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Are there yet any confirmation of which buses on 4th January are moving to East Midlands and what depots I believe 50approx were due to move?

Is there anybody in the know who can confirm how many and which East Midlands Depots?
I thought your previous message stated that East Midlands wasn’t getting 50+ anymore
 

CN12 AWU

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I thought your previous message stated that East Midlands wasn’t getting 50+ anymore
I'm getting mixed messages so hence why I am trying get confirmed

My source has shown me a internal post at Stagecoach East Midlands looking for drivers to collect 57 buses on 4th January but I been told from a source I know at Hyde Rd that there not coming now?

So I was hoping someone who in here who works at either end could confirm the current situation with this move
 

Fox192

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I'm getting mixed messages so hence why I am trying get confirmed

My source has shown me a internal post at Stagecoach East Midlands looking for drivers to collect 57 buses on 4th January but I been told from a source I know at Hyde Rd that there not coming now?

So I was hoping someone who in here who works at either end could confirm the current situation with this move
I think at the rate of mixed messages, countless different things supposed to be happening, it’s probably best to wait and see at this point
 

mayneway

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I'm getting mixed messages so hence why I am trying get confirmed

My source has shown me a internal post at Stagecoach East Midlands looking for drivers to collect 57 buses on 4th January but I been told from a source I know at Hyde Rd that there not coming now?

So I was hoping someone who in here who works at either end could confirm the current situation with this move
I don’t want to go into too much detail but some of the vehicles expected to transfer out *might* remain in Manchester for a short while longer.
I believe Metroline are not overly happy with some of the TFGM supplied vehicles at the minute so potently some of the buses may be staying on hire to TFGM.
Loads going on in the background, I don’t think there’s any concrete list of what’s going and what’s staying as yet!
 
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I'm getting mixed messages so hence why I am trying get confirmed

My source has shown me a internal post at Stagecoach East Midlands looking for drivers to collect 57 buses on 4th January but I been told from a source I know at Hyde Rd that there not coming now?

So I was hoping someone who in here who works at either end could confirm the current situation with this move
The buses you are talking about (remaining E400s) were due to move to East Midlands, but this has mostly been postponed. The remaining 08 plate Trident E400s at Hyde Road, Sharston and Ashton are now going on short term loan to Metroline, whilst the buses they have ordered slowly arrive. However, there are still some cascades due for the East Midlands, although I am not sure what or when they are coming.

Although, as others have said, plans are changing on a daily basis - nothing is set in stone
 

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