Football

[JD2168]

Manchester United beat Leicester 2-1 in the FA Cup this evening. Leicester took a deserved lead in a turgid first half. In the second half United equalised before an offside goal from Maguire won the game. Remember no VAR in the competition until Round 5.

 

[Jimini]

Manchester United beat Leicester 2-1 in the FA Cup this evening. Leicester took a deserved lead in a turgid first half. In the second half United equalised before an offside goal from Maguire won the game. Remember no VAR in the competition until Round 5.

That decision was crazy (four or maybe five of them offside?).

VAR does get more than its fair share of scrutiny — often deserved — but I do feel a bit for the linos who have to switch from the old school rules to the VAR ones and back again. Can’t be easy in that split second moment.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

That decision was crazy (four or maybe five of them offside?).

VAR does get more than its fair share of scrutiny — often deserved — but I do feel a bit for the linos who have to switch from the old school rules to the VAR ones and back again. Can’t be easy in that split second moment.

Forget VAR as it was known not to apply in this stage of the competition. It however did not stop the ITV presenter keep going on about it.

The finger should be definitely be pointed at a linesman, as there was plenty of time to be in line with the players who were waiting for the ball to be played.

 

[SuspectUsual]

I do feel a bit for the linos who have to switch from the old school rules to the VAR ones and back again. Can’t be easy in that split second moment.

The instructions to the linesman are basically the same with and without VAR. if you think it’s offside, stick your flag up. The only difference is the timing - without VAR it’s immediate, with VAR it’s once the phase of play has ended

The finger should be definitely be pointed at a linesman, as there was plenty of time to be in line with the players who were waiting for the ball to be played.

He was dead in line before then all was played. There were four players each at least a yard offside. The one who scored was nearest to the linesman. It was a dead ball. It literally could not have been easier to get the decision right

 

[dangie]

It haven’t seen the match, but I’m guessing that those who say the linesman got it wrong are saying this after they saw the television replays, of which that luxury the linesman and referee didn’t have.

 

[SuspectUsual]

It haven’t seen the match, but I’m guessing that those who say the linesman got it wrong are saying this after they saw the television replays, of which that luxury the linesman and referee didn’t have.

I said it in real time. It really was blindingly obvious

 

[Tetchytyke]

It haven’t seen the match, but I’m guessing that those who say the linesman got it wrong are saying this after they saw the television replays, of which that luxury the linesman and referee didn’t have.

He was four yards offside. There were five Man Utd players who were also offside. Stevie Wonder could have seen it in real time.

That decision is so bad that it is either gross incompetence- so bad the referee should never officiate again- or it is corrupt. PGMOL take great pains to tell us we have the best referees and linesmen in the world and that they won’t ever fire anyone (unless they say something mean about Jurgen Klopp that, let’s face it, the rest of us all thought too).

So that only leaves one option…

This one is even worse than the “ghost goal” that Luton Town fan Stuart Attwell gave against Watford all those years ago.

 

[Ghostbus]

Man City finding their natural level. 1-0 down to Orient at half time.

 

[dangie]

I said it in real time. It really was blindingly obvious

I hadn’t seen the clip before my comment but now I have it was clearly offside.

 

[Bald Rick]

Man City finding their natural level. 1-0 down to Orient at half time.

a tap in

Not surprising that City came back though.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Did Manchester City rest some of their "big names" from the FA Cup match, noting some of the matches they have forthcoming? I should imagine that they have a sizeable team squad.

 

[Haywain]

Did Manchester City rest some of their "big names" from the FA Cup match, noting some of the matches they have forthcoming?

Lots of them, as would have been expected.

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I should imagine that they have a sizeable team squad.

Squad numbers on show today included 75, 82 and 87. I think those players will be some way from being part of a first team squad.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

FA Cup 4th round

Leeds United 0 .. Millwall 2

As Victor Meldrew once said...."I just don't believe it"

 

[SuspectUsual]

Squad numbers on show today included 75, 82 and 87. I think those players will be some way from being part of a first team squad.

82 is Rico Lewis who is an established first team player who also has five caps for England

There’s a bit of a trend these days for players who’ve come through youth teams to keep the high squad numbers they were first allocated on getting into the first team squad

See also Trent Alexander Arnold (66), Phil Foden (47), Declan Rice (41, and kept after transfer to Arsenal) etc

 

[1D54]

FA Cup 4th round

Leeds United 0 .. Millwall 2

As Victor Meldrew once said...."I just don't believe it"

Leeds made ten changes from the team that won at Coventry in midweek. I doubt they will be bothered about this result one bit.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Leeds made ten changes from the team that won at Coventry in midweek. I doubt they will be bothered about this result one bit.

That does not say much for their treatment of fans who had turned up to watch that particular match in which they held home advantage. Perhaps, if what you say is true about them not being bothered by the result, they should have reduced the admission charge to £1 for all supporters.

 

[Mag_seven]

I doubt they will be bothered about this result one bit.

Which just shows how a good FA cup run has been devalued compared to getting the EPL.

 

[SuspectUsual]

Which just shows how a good FA cup run has been devalued compared to getting the EPL.

Of course.

Winning the FA cup would net Leeds about £4m in prize money.

Getting promoted is worth a minimum of £140m over three seasons

Obviously costs would go up massively too, but it does explain neatly why teams "concentrate on the league"

(There's also the question of fixture congestion if a team has a long cup run, which can then lead to a drop off in league results)

 

[Haywain]

Getting promoted is worth a minimum of £140m over three seasons

A bit more than that - Luton received £115m last season, plus the parachute payments over two years will be
qworth 55% and then 45% of the equally shared broadcasting payments (which were worth £87m last year).

 

[SuspectUsual]

A bit more than that - Luton received £115m last season, plus the parachute payments over two years will be
qworth 55% and then 45% of the equally shared broadcasting payments (which were worth £87m last year).

Thanks - I did try and find some up to date info but was getting carsick doing so on the way back from Sunlun v Watford so did it from memory instead!

 

[Haywain]

Thanks - I did try and find some up to date info but was getting carsick doing so on the way back from Sunlun v Watford so did it from memory instead!

Ironically, I'd have been guessing a couple of days ago but saw the figures on TwiX yesterday.

 

[Ghostbus]

Newcastle fieldng a second string, only Livramento, Burn and Guimares regular starters.

Birmingham should have a fighting chance now.

(didn't even finish typing this and they've scored on 45 seconds!)

 

[1D54]

Blues game now 2-2 and this game has it all and the atmosphere is brilliant.

 

[150249]

Blues game now 2-2 and this game has it all and the atmosphere is brilliant.

Incredible watch. I'm not entirely convinced that Newcastle's first was over the line.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Of course.

Winning the FA cup would net Leeds about £4m in prize money.

Getting promoted is worth a minimum of £140m over three seasons

Obviously costs would go up massively too, but it does explain neatly why teams "concentrate on the league"

(There's also the question of fixture congestion if a team has a long cup run, which can then lead to a drop off in league results)

Leeds were drawn at home which is usually an advantage and I assume they have quite a good in-depth playing squad and I am told they have fans that can create quite a good match atmosphere, yet a website member has suggested that the club were unconcerned about the result. That being the case, Burnley, another top three club in the Championship had to travel to the away fixture in Southampton using that same logic, why did Burnley bother to win 1-0 and yet again force themselves to fixture congestion when like Leeds United, a place in the EPL must be the target to aim at. Should the Burnley manager be censored by the club owners for winning today?

 

[Ghostbus]

Fair to say the people are getting their licence fee's worth.

Eddie Howe playing with fire. Gordon/Isak/Murphy would have scored a hatful by now, even if the rest of the Newcastle team was the same.

Newcastle's first pretty clearly not a goal, albeit maybe only by an inch.

 

[Haywain]

why did Burnley bother to win 1-0

Because Southampton are a poor, demoralised side. It was probably more difficult to lose.

 

[Ghostbus]

I totally forgot Tom Brady was an investor in BCFC.

How wierd is that?

I wonder how many Americans have the first idea the quality (or lack thereof) of the SuperBowl color commentary in a little over 24 hours perhaps depends on the outcome of this game?

Not that Tommy isn't a consumate professional, and a clutch player. But are his boys in blue?

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Edit:
Full time. What a game. Fog of war, quite literally.

Eddie made hard work of that, but at least he didn't have to work the first teamers much if at all. Man of the match was fittingly an Arsenal reject, Willock, with two goals. It's almost like they don't know what they're doing down there at the Emirates under Arteta!

Plenty of things to concern Liverpool here. This Newcastle side does not roll over, not even the second string. And their star players are sometimes anything but the stars.

 

[JD2168]

Blues game now 2-2 and this game has it all and the atmosphere is brilliant.

A great Cup Tie. Tomoki Iwata’s goal for Birmingham was a brilliant volley into the net.

In the end Birmingham ran out of steam & Newcastle won 3-2 with Willock scoring the winner.

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Did Manchester City rest some of their "big names" from the FA Cup match, noting some of the matches they have forthcoming? I should imagine that they have a sizeable team squad.

They did have to bring on Kevin De Bruyne to score the winner & Bernardo Silva came on for the debutant Gonzalez who was injured.

 

[dangie]

Stoke City 3-3 Cardiff City
Cardiff City win 4-2 on penalties

Stoke manager Mark Robins told BBC Radio Stoke:
‘We're disappointed to go out but we've lost on penalties, not lost the game.’

Just hang on a second Mark…… who is in the next round, Stoke or Cardiff….??