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Yes I am holding a protest outside the building with a banner Hulleys are here to stay save our Hulleys bus routes
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Goldfish62
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Hilarious!
What do you expect that to achieve?
Trainman40083
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I doubt anyone will be outside at all.
SLC001
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I read this thread because I have a great deal of affection for Bakewell and have an interest in bus operation and Hulleys in particular. I ask myself what is the point of Hulleys? If it were a pet I'd put it down out of it's misery. Again, operational difficulties has seen 4 services cancelled on 1 day. I understand the difficulties of bus operation, shortage of spares, driver recruitment, low passenger numbers, low reimbursement rates, capital requirements etc. but I cannot but wonder that if this was a metropolitan area, it would be sorted.
So, so sad. And the PI will I suspect achieve little for the passengers.
So, so sad. And the PI will I suspect achieve little for the passengers.
Pyewipecarshed
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From what I understand from earlier in this thread and Wikipedia, Go Coach has been sold back to its original owner Austin Blackburn. Gov.uk has him appointed as director from 13th January this year. However Alf Crofts (Hulleys) is still listed as an active director, so I get the impression they're not quite as unravelled as may be thought.
Pyewipecarshed
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Nice one, thanks for the explanation; I'll look forward to the separate thread "Alf and Ashley's Curtains" coming soon!!
There’s a thread below to discuss some of the park and ride ideas that were coming up.
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Ideas for park and ride facilities in the Peak District National Park?
I read this thread because I have a great deal of affection for Bakewell and have an interest in bus operation and Hulleys in particular. I ask myself what is the point of Hulleys? If it were a pet I'd put it down out of it's misery. Again, operational difficulties has seen 4 services cancelled...
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It was the Hulleys PI yesterday. Obviously these are oral hearing so the below is my interpretation of events. I have no "evidence" as yet pending publication by the TC or should any of the local rags report any of this and theres a chance I may have misinterpreted some things.
However...
Several failings were exposed. Some initial decisions were made including a restriction on new service registration and the need for a 2nd Traffic Manager to be added to the licence. The hearing was adjourned for a further 12 weeks.
Put simply, they've around 3 months to get their act together before the hearing reconvenes. Further disciplinary action - including the revocation of the licence - has not been ruled out.
I'm afraid that comments above in this thread that this PI was trivial and nothing to worry about were misleading at best.
However...
Several failings were exposed. Some initial decisions were made including a restriction on new service registration and the need for a 2nd Traffic Manager to be added to the licence. The hearing was adjourned for a further 12 weeks.
Put simply, they've around 3 months to get their act together before the hearing reconvenes. Further disciplinary action - including the revocation of the licence - has not been ruled out.
I'm afraid that comments above in this thread that this PI was trivial and nothing to worry about were misleading at best.
WibbleWobble
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Some smaller operators only recruit for part time additional Transport Managers. As long as they can keep on top of everything, it might be all that is needed. Maybe an admin person could be bumped up to cover it?
In these circumstances I would suggest the solution is an experienced TM who can help the company through the coming weeks and months, not a 'bumped up' admin person
derbybusdepot
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I thought Matthew Smales had been appointed as transport manager at the end of last year?
Hopefully they stabilise things in the coming months.
Trainman40083
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Keep up..On Companies House he shows as having resigned on 28th February 2025
WibbleWobble
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My reason for saying "bumped up admin person" is that they might already do a lot of work in compliance - they could potentially easily do the job as they already do a lot of the legwork (for example financial records, maintenance records). For someone, this could be the next step up in a career progression. It all depends on the experience of staff at the business.
It was a bit of a generalised answer to a question that in itself could be seen as a general question.
Trainman40083
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I thought there was only one other person in admin..Is it not the person who recently resigned as a director?
Company Director (subsequently resigned last week), not Traffic Manager
Cesarcollie
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Indeed But to learn everything and take the exam can take many months, so it depends on how quickly the TC requires a second appointment.
Transport Manager is the legal title.
I meant Mr Smales has been appointed as a Company Director, not as a named Traffic Manager on the licence
Cesarcollie
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Yes. But you mean a ‘named Transport Manager’.
Indeed I do... Senior moment!
Trainman40083
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But he resigned last month as a director
Yes. @AWK mentioned this earlier in the thread, but was clarifying another point.
m79900
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I assume if there were mass cancellations, it'd show on the Facebook page. Probably just not tracking.
Well, that depends who is managing the Facebook page.
I've been told multiple trips a day are being dropped - I won't go in to more detail out of respect to the person I got the info from.
pointer
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Hulleys don't get much good press nowadays, do they...
www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk
Shocking video shows driver smoking while driving bus near Chesterfield Royal Hospital
A passenger said he could smell cigarette smoke while travelling on a Chesterfield bus.
www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk
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TheSel
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Whether they did 'the right thing' is very much dependant on whether the driver's planned further duties were covered, or whether this directly led to [further] dropped trips. I, for one, would rather be on a bus being driven by a driver who had been disciplined than waiting in vain, in the cold and wet for one that should have been driven by a driver who had been dismissed and not replaced.