Hulley's of Baslow

[IamTrainsYT]

Sorry, I meant the three registrations I quoted. I can find YJ57XWR on bustimes against Hulleys but only for a few months, and YJ57XWN only shows under Go Coach.

XWN (2) was the plain white one involved in the “bradwell incident” on a 173 and was subsequently scrapped

XWR (14) was also written off but I can’t remember where or when

 

[Teapot42]

XWN (2) was the plain white one involved in the “bradwell incident” on a 173 and was subsequently scrapped

Is that the one that ended up in a field? Saw the photo but didn't hear what actually happened.

XWR (14) was also written off but I can’t remember where or when

Hulleys definitely suffered 'bad luck' when it comes to vehicles being written off or badly damaged and needing repair. That's at least 4 Solos (those two, the Newbury one that caught fire and took out the Scania, and 10 - which was repaired) and two E400s I can think of involved in incidents.

Did repairs ever start on 16?

While all companies suffer incidents (I can think of at least 4 in Stagecoach Yorkshire in the last year or so for example) the ratio to fleet size seems significant, and possibly a contributory factor to the demise.

 

[mangad]

I drove past the Andrews garage, and they even have a Hulley's double-decker (the one that lost its roof on hitting a bridge) in their yard.

 

[38291018]

I mean not actually seen it but I'll assume it be for parts I can't imagine them going to repair it if its hit a bridge and ripped the roof off although could be wrong

 

[zkyx02]

I mean not actually seen it but I'll assume it be for parts I can't imagine them going to repair it if its hit a bridge and ripped the roof off although could be wrong

The engine is going into a solo & then it’ll likely be scrapped.

 

[JD2168]

Drove past the Andrews garage and they even have that Hulleys double decker that lost its roof on hitting a bridge in their yard.

I would think a source of spares as the other deckers at Andrews are of the same type & length

 

[grumpyoldman01]

I drove up the A619 from Chesterfield to Wadshelf on Thursday, and it seemed most strange not to see at least one Hulley's bus

 

[IamTrainsYT]

I would think a source of spares as the other deckers at Andrews are of the same type & length

Correct, YX57XWP gets the engine. LJ09KPK gets the wiring loom and the rest are spares for as/when required

Did repairs ever start on 16?

From what i’ve been told it was sent to a scrapyard but don’t quote me on that

 

[MotCO]

The engine is going into a solo & then it’ll likely be scrapped.

Are the engines the same? Are we going to see a souped-up Solo racing round the roads?

 

[Teapot42]

Are the engines the same? Are we going to see a souped-up Solo racing round the roads?

I was wondering the same! From what I could find online there are versions of the ISB 6.7l with various power ratings, but it seems the Solo gets the lowest, 185 bhp. I'd be surprised if an E400 could run with that little, but maybe they can be remapped.

I believe 3 had been upgraded to Euro VI but I'm not sure that can be transferred, as I think it's linked with the vehicle itself, not the engine / exhaust.

 

[IamTrainsYT]

Are the engines the same? Are we going to see a souped-up Solo racing round the roads?

No but YJ57XWP has the same engine fitted and was *very* rapid

 

[MotCO]

No but YJ57XWP has the same engine fitted and was *very* rapid

(Maybe it was to help Hulleys adhere to their tight timetables!)

 

[duncombec]

The initial "Statement of Affairs" from the liquidator was posted to Companies House on 1 May. (Apologies, but the direct link is several lines of auto-generated code, but can be downloaded from the "Filing History" page here: https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/02280297/filing-history).

It would need someone more skilled than me to identify any financial causes, but it does include a lengthy list of "part B" creditors. To avoid the thread being closed, it would perhaps be sensible to stick to factual commentary rather than any guesswork or opinion.

No such information has yet been posted for the "Modeldart" holding company.

 

[SCH117X]

Largest creditor after HMRC is Harrogate Coach Travel at £350,000.
Vehicle asset are merely £7,130.21 which could be the one vehicle that did not move on.

 

[Teapot42]

Vehicle asset are merely £7,130.21 which could be the one vehicle that did not move on.

It may not even be a bus. There were various pool cars, plus they recently bought a van fitted out with toilet and kitchen facilities.

It would need someone more skilled than me to identify any financial causes, but it does include a lengthy list of "part B" creditors. To avoid the thread being closed, it would perhaps be sensible to stick to factual commentary rather than any guesswork or opinion.

Quite a long list, and it would suggest some businesses have been allowing debt to accrue for some time. Ticketer for example are owed a decent sum. Quite a lot of small local suppliers - which may explain something I heard towards the end. They were struggling to get an auto electrician to fix several vehicles. Maybe many suppliers refused to work with them after bills went unpaid?

One thing of note - £189k was owned to Baslow Properties. This will be linked to the depot as it's owned by the Eades family. It suggests that reports of the rent being peppercorn are incorrect, but also that they were very tolerant of rent not being paid.

No such information has yet been posted for the "Modeldart" holding company.

It's only Hulleys which have declared insolvency though. Modeldart was just a holding company

As an aside, I've heard a few things - which I won't repeat on here until they become public - which may indicate there is more to come out from this whole sorry saga.