Class 168 Refurbishment Discussion and Updates

[Dood75]

Half of 168001. It's been stood there for many weeks now.

Thanks Jacob...didnt think it looked to be a full unit...appreciate your reply

 

[Class15]

Thanks for the clarification, but the dig in bold is just unnecessary. There’s thousands of threads on this forum. I can’t be expected to know all information in every one.

I have to say I am agreement with you here. Plus they would likely all be in the Infrastructure forum, and this thread is in the Rolling Stock forum.

 

[12LDA28C]

I have to say I am agreement with you here. Plus they would likely all be in the Infrastructure forum, and this thread is in the Rolling Stock forum.

The discussion was in an EWR thread, since it relates to the potential connection from Aylesbury to EWR.

 

[N Scorah]

Half of 168001. It's been stood there for many weeks now.

Any idea which half?

 

[Jacob Porrett]

Any idea which half?

Don't know by Carriage numbers unfortunately but it's the front half with the name plate on it if that helps.

 

[CR165022]

5F65 is running and is 2 165s.

 

[Jacob Porrett]

Any idea which half?

So I've got the carriage numbers for you. 58651 one of the middle cars and 58151 the front car with the nameplate on.

 

[CR165022]

5F68 is indeed 168329.
It has weirdly been put back into the Mainline livery rather than the new Blue livery, although I guess it would need to go to crewe for that?

 

[N Scorah]

So I've got the carriage numbers for you. 58651 one of the middle cars and 58151 the front car with the nameplate on.

Thanks

 

[Jacob Porrett]

5F68 is indeed 168329.
It has weirdly been put back into the Mainline livery rather than the new Blue livery, although I guess it would need to go to crewe for that?

Yeah all new livery is being done at Crewe.

 

[MerlinRail 804]

5F65 is running and is 2 165s.

Were they going up for the 165 refresh or just general stuff?

 

[Liam L]

5F68 is indeed 168329.
It has weirdly been put back into the Mainline livery rather than the new Blue livery, although I guess it would need to go to crewe for that?

To me it looks like the hybrid stuff was just vinyl's over the mainline livery

 

[12LDA28C]

5F68 is indeed 168329.
It has weirdly been put back into the Mainline livery rather than the new Blue livery, although I guess it would need to go to crewe for that?

It has not been 'put back' in mainline livery, it simply hasn't been painted yet. Wolverton don't do painting as far as I know.

 

[CR165022]

To me it looks like the hybrid stuff was just vinyl's over the mainline livery

It was stripped down to just the White & Grey before the Hybrid livery was applied.

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Were they going up for the 165 refresh or just general stuff?

They went to assist 168329 back, the same thing was done when 165004 came back.

 

[Class15]

It has not been 'put back' in mainline livery, it simply hasn't been painted yet. Wolverton don't do painting as far as I know.

Given that a couple of 175s have just been sent to Wolverton for painting into GWR livery, I’m not sure that Wolverton ‘don’t do painting’. Plus the Freightliner 66s and 90s and Northern 323s also.

 

[12LDA28C]

Given that a couple of 175s have just been sent to Wolverton for painting into GWR livery, I’m not sure that Wolverton ‘don’t do painting’. Plus the Freightliner 66s and 90s and Northern 323s also.

Ok, but they don't do painting for Chiltern. The 165s are going to Doncaster for their refresh program.

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Were they going up for the 165 refresh or just general stuff?

See above.

 

[Liam L]

It has not been 'put back' in mainline livery, it simply hasn't been painted yet. Wolverton don't do painting as far as I know.

Wolverton do painting, they only a few units off completing the ex 17 WMR 323s for Northern.

 

[43096]

Ok, but they don't do painting for Chiltern.

They're just not contracted to paint them.

 

[CR165022]

Some images of 168329 sat in Aylesbury today.

 

[12LDA28C]

Some images of 168329 sat in Aylesbury today.

Clearly plenty of work still to do before it can return to service.

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There is a 5A68 in TRUST scheduled to run from Crewe to Aylesbury on Monday 17th March. Suspect this will be 168003.

 

[Jacob Porrett]

Clearly plenty of work still to do before it can return to service.

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There is a 5A68 in TRUST scheduled to run from Crewe to Aylesbury on Monday 17th March. Suspect this will be 168003.

Realtime Trains | 5A68 1042 Crewe C.S. to Aylesbury | 17/03/2025

Real-time train running information for 5A68 1042 departure from Crewe C.S. to Aylesbury on 17/03/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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168003 confirmed.

 

[CR165022]

Surely 001 must be near to completion by now? Hopefully anyway!

 

[Jacob Porrett]

Surely 001 must be near to completion by now? Hopefully anyway!

Still in pieces at the moment. Half of it has been sitting outside for many weeks.

 

[RPM]

Surely 001 must be near to completion by now? Hopefully anyway!

I understand it was found to have the same post-refurb teething issues as 003, hence the delay, which shouldn't trouble subsequent units.

 

[MerlinRail 804]

I understand it was found to have the same post-refurb teething issues as 003, hence the delay, which shouldn't trouble subsequent units.

I’m sure it probably says a few pages back, but i also feel like it doesn’t. What specifically were the “teething issues”? I know there were engine troubles but was there anything else as well?

 

[RPM]

I’m sure it probably says a few pages back, but i also feel like it doesn’t. What specifically were the “teething issues”? I know there were engine troubles but was there anything else as well?

I think the company would rather not go into specifics, and I'd like to keep my job.

 

[MerlinRail 804]

I think the company would rather not go into specifics, and I'd like to keep my job.

Yeah makes sense. Sorry!

 

[20Man]

There is a 168 just passing Banbury on a Crewe - Aylesbury working at the moment, 14:00, not sure which one though.

 

[CR165022]

There is a 168 just passing Banbury on a Crewe - Aylesbury working at the moment, 14:00, not sure which one though.

Will be 168003.

 

[12LDA28C]

There is a 168 just passing Banbury on a Crewe - Aylesbury working at the moment, 14:00, not sure which one though.

It was 168003 which is now back at Aylesbury.