• Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

LU/Elizabeth Line 4G update

androom8

Member
Joined
23 Jan 2018
Messages
6
The signal also appeared in the Bakerloo tunnels between Piccadilly Circus and Oxford Circus.
 
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

Mojo

Forum Staff
Staff Member
Administrator
Joined
7 Aug 2005
Messages
20,851
Location
0035
EE now has reception between Shepherd’s Bush and White City
Oh no! I do this journey every day and quite enjoyed the break because it tended to be the time when those annoying people playing TikTok / reels out loud put their phones away.
 

Class15

Established Member
Joined
30 Dec 2021
Messages
3,184
Location
North London or Mildmay line
It would be cool if they could do the Hampstead Tunnel to complete data availability on the Mildmay line, although it’s probably not even part of this scheme not being a tube line.
 

bicbasher

Established Member
Joined
14 May 2010
Messages
1,805
Location
London
It would be cool if they could do the Hampstead Tunnel to complete data availability on the Mildmay line, although it’s probably not even part of this scheme not being a tube line.
The only section of London Overground which is currently part of the scheme is on the Windrush core section. It hasn't been enabled yet.
 

Mojo

Forum Staff
Staff Member
Administrator
Joined
7 Aug 2005
Messages
20,851
Location
0035
The only section of London Overground which is currently part of the scheme is on the Windrush core section. It hasn't been enabled yet.
I suppose you could also argue that the tunnel at Kensal Green is another section of the London Overground that's [going to be] covered, although I imagine that's only included because it's on the Bakerloo line.

I was also wondering, is this the only bit of NR infrastructure that is included?
 

Alxxxs

Member
Joined
14 Oct 2024
Messages
16
Location
London
Oh no! I do this journey every day and quite enjoyed the break because it tended to be the time when those annoying people playing TikTok / reels out loud put their phones away.
Idk about you but I suffer from quite strong claustrophobia and that tunnel is actually one of the very few if not the only one in London where it is “normal” for trains to stop for up to 5 minutes. So this has been a massive relief for me
 

Mojo

Forum Staff
Staff Member
Administrator
Joined
7 Aug 2005
Messages
20,851
Location
0035
EE now has reception between Shepherd’s Bush and White City
Can confirm that Vodafone has signal also on this stretch. Two things interesting is that I only get 3 bars and also that it’s only 4G, whereas the rest of the network it’s almost always 4 bars of 5G.
 

johntea

Established Member
Joined
29 Dec 2010
Messages
2,764
Can’t believe I get 150mb at points on a Underground train but struggle to get 15mb sat at home

(My first trip to London today since this got introduced I think)

Technology eh :D
 

A60stock

Member
Joined
26 Aug 2019
Messages
135
Location
London
Will the Met get signal between Finchley Road and Baker Street (tunnelled sections).

Also the Bakerloo does not seem to get signal from oxford circus to Baker street yet.
 

Mojo

Forum Staff
Staff Member
Administrator
Joined
7 Aug 2005
Messages
20,851
Location
0035
Will the Met get signal between Finchley Road and Baker Street (tunnelled sections).
Yes, every tunnelled section on every LU line, plus the Elizabeth line, even shorter tunnels in what are otherwise open sections, will be covered.
 

Mojo

Forum Staff
Staff Member
Administrator
Joined
7 Aug 2005
Messages
20,851
Location
0035
Interesting on the Elizabeth line this morning (during the peak) whereby despite saying I had 5G with all bars of signal displaying, there was no signal whatsoever and nothing was loading. I had a look around me and there were at least two other people trying to use the web and nothing was loading for them either. This was beteeen Bond St and Farringdon. When we got to Farringdon it picked up.
 

Alxxxs

Member
Joined
14 Oct 2024
Messages
16
Location
London
Can confirm that Vodafone has signal also on this stretch. Two things interesting is that I only get 3 bars and also that it’s only 4G, whereas the rest of the network it’s almost always 4 bars of 5G.
It’s not working on EE anymore. Maybe it was a test or something
 

bluegoblin7

Established Member
Joined
10 May 2011
Messages
1,716
Location
JB/JP/JW
4G only on the Victoria line between Highbury & Islington and King’s Cross, and full 5G between KX and Euston this morning, which seems to be a new addition (wasn’t there yesterday!). It has occasionally been possible to get signal at KX spilling over from Euston, but seems to be the full thing now.
 

BJames

Established Member
Joined
27 Jan 2018
Messages
1,422
4G only on the Victoria line between Highbury & Islington and King’s Cross, and full 5G between KX and Euston this morning, which seems to be a new addition (wasn’t there yesterday!). It has occasionally been possible to get signal at KX spilling over from Euston, but seems to be the full thing now.
Noticed this today too, although (on o2) it was only about halfway between Highbury and KX that my data actually started working to load webpages, despite displaying 4G before that. Might have possibly been my phone acting up though, will have another proper look tomorrow. Didn't get a chance to check northbound as travelled home a different route today.
 

kacper

Member
Joined
27 May 2022
Messages
282
Location
London
I travelled in both directions between Highbury and Kings Cross. Going southbound my phone picked up a signal but no 4G, going north it picked up a signal with 4G but only for about 40% of the tunnel. I am on EE, and the second vodafone sim on my phone has no signal (as it usually does)
 

bicbasher

Established Member
Joined
14 May 2010
Messages
1,805
Location
London
Interesting on the Elizabeth line this morning (during the peak) whereby despite saying I had 5G with all bars of signal displaying, there was no signal whatsoever and nothing was loading. I had a look around me and there were at least two other people trying to use the web and nothing was loading for them either. This was beteeen Bond St and Farringdon. When we got to Farringdon it picked up.
It was all back to normal on Friday when I was up there. No issues watching YouTube between Bond Street and Whitechapel in both directions.
 

Mojo

Forum Staff
Staff Member
Administrator
Joined
7 Aug 2005
Messages
20,851
Location
0035
It was all back to normal on Friday when I was up there. No issues watching YouTube between Bond Street and Whitechapel in both directions.
I’m wondering if it was just the volume of customers. A LU train and platform is unlikely to have that number of people all in one place at the time whereas the 345s can obviously transport a lot more people.
 

MrJeeves

Established Member
Associate Staff
Senior Fares Advisor
Joined
28 Aug 2015
Messages
3,449
Location
Burgess Hill
It's worth remembering that the Elizabeth Line system is significantly inferior to the London Underground solution.

The LUL one was procured much more recently and had been planned for high capacity 5G connectivity from the start, while the EL/XR solution was designed with 4G in mind, and the 5G deployed has been relatively low capacity frequencies and not the mid-band frequencies (in the UK, this is known as "n78") which you expect in major cities and high capacity locations.

One of the issues with locking in designs like this early on in procurement and construction, I suppose. And it's unlikely it'll be upgraded soon considering it's nowhere near end of life yet, having launched just a year or so ago.
 

gfa

Member
Joined
14 Mar 2023
Messages
14
Location
London
I'd also be curious if anyone has an ETA for the bakerloo north of oxford circus. This rollout has been taking ages, they aren't even close to halfway done yet I think. No doubt the Bakerloo will be last!
 

kacper

Member
Joined
27 May 2022
Messages
282
Location
London
Still not much north of kings cross. you can use signal until about half way to Highbury and Islington
 

Top