Tyne & Wear Metro Fleet Replacement: Awarded to Stadler

[P156KWJ]

Should be a 6Q43 appear, but probably not until tomorrow night.

 

[800001]

6Q34 should appear in RTT either later on today or overnight.

In a first, subject to the usual caveats, the Class 43s will deliver the wagons back to Dollands Moor directly from Pelaw on Friday.

Path now showing for 6Q34 attached below

Realtime Trains | 6Q34 1345 Wembley Receptions 1-7 to Pelaw Jn. | 08/05/2025

Real-time train running information for 6Q34 1345 departure from Wembley Receptions 1-7 to Pelaw Jn. on 08/05/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[ExRes]

Asking as a southern foreigner is there a difference between the past arrivals at Pelaw Goods Loops against Pelaw Junction this time?

 

[DanNCL]

Asking as a southern foreigner is there a difference between the past arrivals at Pelaw Goods Loops against Pelaw Junction this time?

No difference to what will happen in practice which is that the delivery will proceed onto the Jarrow branch and be dropped off on Nexus infrastructure just after Bill Quay. Pelaw Junction is a more accurate destination than Pelaw Goods Loops was.

 

[ExRes]

No difference to what will happen in practice which is that the delivery will proceed onto the Jarrow branch and be dropped off on Nexus infrastructure just after Bill Quay. Pelaw Junction is a more accurate destination than Pelaw Goods Loops was.

Thanks for that @DanNCL

 

[Otis]

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[800001]

555014 (graffiti) + 555012 heading North through Cuffley today on 6Q34.

Does anyone know where the graffiti was applied?

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On the side of the train…….ill get my coat , I would hazard a guess Latchmere, seems to be usual place to be tagged

 

[DanNCL]

It was likely either Latchmere or Wembley. The units had extended stops at both locations and both are known hotspots.

I’m sure I’ve seen one of those tags on a Metrocar before…

 

[Paul_10]

I do hope with these new units, the bodywork can cope better with graffiti attacks than the current fleet where evidence of graffiti removal on some trains have certainly left them a bit battered.

 

[Class15]

Here are my images… no graffiti here!

Images show class 43s dragging 555012 and 555014 through Gospel Oak station on the NLL.

 

[P156KWJ]

Here are my images… no graffiti here!

Images show class 43s dragging 555012 and 555014 through Gospel Oak station on the NLL.

That's because it's on the other side

 

[Steddenm]

Here are my images… no graffiti here!

Images show class 43s dragging 555012 and 555014 through Gospel Oak station on the NLL.

That HST powercar has seen better days!

 

[mansonlo49]

hello may I ask that please which post is the updates of the 46 metro fleet? Thanks

 

[DanNCL]

hello may I ask that please which post is the updates of the 46 metro fleet? Thanks

I’ll be doing a new one tomorrow once the delivery has arrived.

 

[FusionZenFlame]

I’ll be doing a new one tomorrow once the delivery has arrived.

Remember to include 555015 entered service, which I do not think you included for the most recent one.

 

[DustyBin]

That HST powercar has seen better days!

A bit of graffiti on 43423 would actually be an improvement!

 

[Prime586]

It was likely either Latchmere or Wembley. The units had extended stops at both locations and both are known hotspots.

I’m sure I’ve seen one of those tags on a Metrocar before…

JASON (on the second car) is an extremely prolific tagger round London, and it's not the first train he has tagged.

 

[Cowley]

555014 (graffiti) + 555012 heading North through Cuffley today on 6Q34.

Does anyone know where the graffiti was applied?

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I’m not singling you out @Otis, but just to make a wider point regarding posting photos of graffitied trains - We feel that giving it the oxygen of publicity is exactly what people who do this kind of thing want. We’ve recently said similar in one of the London Underground threads.

I think it’s best that we minimise how much of this stuff is publicised, we won’t delete the last few posts about it, but moving forward we’d rather not have any more.

Thank you for your understanding.

 

[Meerkat]

I’m not singling you out @Otis, but just to make a wider point regarding posting photos of graffitied trains - We feel that giving it the oxygen of publicity is exactly what people who do this kind of thing want. We’ve recently said similar in one of the London Underground threads.

I think it’s best that we minimise how much of this stuff is publicised, we won’t delete the last few posts about it, but moving forward we’d rather not have any more.

Thank you for your understanding.

Could they be shown but with the graffiti blurred out? So it shows the problem but is useless for the culprit’s portfolio?

JASON (on the second car) is an extremely prolific tagger round London, and it's not the first train he has tagged.

Sounds like a reward needs to be posted….

 

[Cowley]

Could they be shown but with the graffiti blurred out? So it shows the problem but is useless for the culprit’s portfolio?

Yes I can’t see too much of a problem with that.

 

[Peter Sarf]

The power cars are off to Dollands Moor from Pelaw as I write.
Is there another delivery but this time direct from Dollands Moor ?.
(J*s*n could be disapointed fingers crossed).

6Q43

 

[mansonlo49]

I’ll be doing a new one tomorrow once the delivery has arrived.

thank you

 

[43096]

I’m not singling you out @Otis, but just to make a wider point regarding posting photos of graffitied trains - We feel that giving it the oxygen of publicity is exactly what people who do this kind of thing want. We’ve recently said similar in one of the London Underground threads.

I think it’s best that we minimise how much of this stuff is publicised, we won’t delete the last few posts about it, but moving forward we’d rather not have any more.

Thank you for your understanding.

It’s a good thing this isn’t Belgian Railways Forum!

 

[pazanate]

T121 has been taken over by Metrocars 4044+4020 today

 

[Paul_10]

I’m not singling you out @Otis, but just to make a wider point regarding posting photos of graffitied trains - We feel that giving it the oxygen of publicity is exactly what people who do this kind of thing want. We’ve recently said similar in one of the London Underground threads.

I think it’s best that we minimise how much of this stuff is publicised, we won’t delete the last few posts about it, but moving forward we’d rather not have any more.

Thank you for your understanding.

Unfortunately Im getting an increasing impression among many younger enthusiasts is they love seeing the graffiti on the trains as it makes them look "interesting" or "colourful".

Then you bizarrely get the enthusiasts who seems to condemn it but still post photos online which seems rather backwards too me.

I just feel sorry for the staff who has to constantly wash it off and as I mentioned previously, I just hope the metal on this new fleet will be better quality and won't show as obvious as it does on the old fleet.

 

[kez19]

Unfortunately Im getting an increasing impression among many younger enthusiasts is they love seeing the graffiti on the trains as it makes them look "interesting" or "colourful".

Then you bizarrely get the enthusiasts who seems to condemn it but still post photos online which seems rather backwards too me.

I just feel sorry for the staff who has to constantly wash it off and as I mentioned previously, I just hope the metal on this new fleet will be better quality and won't show as obvious as it does on the old fleet.

I was genuinely surprised a few months back I seen one of the older metro cars in graffiti (thought I had seen things!), does this happen often?

 

[27000]

T121 has been taken over by Metrocars 4044+4020 today

So no 555s out today, then?

 

[jkkne]

Unfortunately Im getting an increasing impression among many younger enthusiasts is they love seeing the graffiti on the trains as it makes them look "interesting" or "colourful".

Then you bizarrely get the enthusiasts who seems to condemn it but still post photos online which seems rather backwards too me.

I just feel sorry for the staff who has to constantly wash it off and as I mentioned previously, I just hope the metal on this new fleet will be better quality and won't show as obvious as it does on the old fleet.

It’s not a big deal. Graffiti is commonplace in Europe. Spain and Italy have heavily graffitied fleets

Those trains run on time, are cheaper and amazingly are photographed and entirely unaffected by it. Nobody is championing graffiti

Suggesting sharing the images is supporting it is utter banal nonsense, a typical backward British prim and proper attitude. It’s a train…it got graffitied…it’ll still open its doors and still welcome passengers.

Glad to see more arriving. Less knicker cliniching needed

 

[pazanate]

So no 555s out today, then?

Not sure, I’ve personally been noticing that during weekdays T125 and T123 has been operated by a Metrocar set towards midnight, not sure if these occurrences are just bad luck on my end.

From my observations the permanent 555 operated diagrams have been spotty whether a 555 shows up or a Metrocar.

 

[hopperelec]

Not sure, I’ve personally been noticing that during weekdays T125 and T123 has been operated by a Metrocar set towards midnight, not sure if these occurrences are just bad luck on my end.

From my observations the permanent 555 operated diagrams have been spotty whether a 555 shows up or a Metrocar.

Since returning to service after the door fiasco, only the T121 and T102 weekday diagrams have been covered by 555s. T123, T125 and T104 have been metrocars, and no 555s have ran passenger service the past couple weekends to my knowledge. Only exception was T111 and T133 on BH Monday, which ran as 555s. My understanding is that, while Nexus and Stadler have agreed on a software fix, it has not actually been implemented yet. So, for now, the temporary fix is to just have 2 members of the staff in the driver's cab at all times. Of course, this means more drivers are busy at a time, so fewer diagrams are able to be covered.