XCTurbostar
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That is very disappointing. A full wrap would've been nice at least... I hope more's coming soon.
OneTrackMinded
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Really wouldn’t have as much of a problem with this as I do if it was being applied to all the trains, yet it’s not.
TT-ONR-NRN
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I completely agree. I don't like the idea of the SWR logo remaining on 99.9% of the fleet when Sunday supposedly marks a new era.
Mrwerdna1
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It's a wee bit clunky, certainly.
I_am_Nobody
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The SWR logo will remain for a while yet, mostly because the company is still called South Western Railway. SWR isn’t going anywhere for a very long time yet.
RichSwitch
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I could understand the government wanting to hold a presser for the first company to be brought into DFTO under their watch. But if this is embargoed until Sunday, it would seem unlikely that someone was able to take a photo from their phone. One would think it was a very exclusive event (exclusive in terms of who was there, not in terms of canapés and champagne).
Even if it turns out to be true, GBR won’t be existing as such until 2027. I can’t see a branded train out until then. When it is, LNER have been in DFTO for longer than SWR, so it may be on an Azuma first.
I suspect GBR is going to be a series of launches much as we’ve seen for the 701s.
I’ll wait until the launch appears in an accredited source.
Even if it turns out to be true, GBR won’t be existing as such until 2027. I can’t see a branded train out until then. When it is, LNER have been in DFTO for longer than SWR, so it may be on an Azuma first.
I suspect GBR is going to be a series of launches much as we’ve seen for the 701s.
I’ll wait until the launch appears in an accredited source.
croydontangle
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Saying I’m getting “the N train” would give a certain New York feel to my upcoming daily commute from Wakefield Westgate though!
Snow1964
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The BBC news have the first nationalised service is cancelled, and second will be a replacement bus, not a train (so probably not in any relevant livery)
www.bbc.co.uk
South Western Railway: First nationalised train is bus service
South Western Railway becomes Great British Railways on Sunday at 01:59 BST precisely.
www.bbc.co.uk
Wasn't the first privatised service e a bus? Fishguard to somewhere at silly o'clock in the morning?The BBC news have the first nationalised service is cancelled, and second will be a replacement bus, not a train (so probably not in any relevant livery)
South Western Railway: First nationalised train is bus service
South Western Railway becomes Great British Railways on Sunday at 01:59 BST precisely.
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I disagree. 1st shoukd have been retained, and made better. A lot better!
01:50 Fishguard to Paddington, bustituted to Cardiff.
Leyland Bus
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That can't be it... surely?? An embargo for that???
I get that the logo is to be expected, the double arrow and the name, fine but what on earth was all the secrecy about??
Leyland Bus
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I certainly hope so!
Also hoping the flag isn't apart of the final design... it's really not needed...
The article is inaccurate, the 0227 from Guildford is the Rail Air coach, only shown as SWR in systems for data purposes.The BBC news have the first nationalised service is cancelled, and second will be a replacement bus, not a train (so probably not in any relevant livery)
South Western Railway: First nationalised train is bus service
South Western Railway becomes Great British Railways on Sunday at 01:59 BST precisely.
Bletchleyite
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Thought it would leak. That's a bit of an anticlimax, isn't it?
Why isn’t it needed for something branded as British?
TT-ONR-NRN
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Some people appear to have a real problem with seeing the national flag, something British people should be proud of, it such a shame.
I don’t expect people to be proud of it - that’s a choice. But the active dislike of it seems odd, particularly from people happy to wave all sorts of other flags!
TT-ONR-NRN
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Yes, that’s what I meant, thanks.
That article is inaccurate. Only the second half of the first service is a rail replacement bus. The first ever nationalised SWR service will be the 05:36 Woking to Surbiton 05:59 service which is a proper train. It is only the second nationalised SWR service at 06:06 Surbiton to 07:02 Clapham Junction which is a rail replacement bus.The BBC news have the first nationalised service is cancelled, and second will be a replacement bus, not a train (so probably not in any relevant livery)
South Western Railway: First nationalised train is bus service
South Western Railway becomes Great British Railways on Sunday at 01:59 BST precisely.
Leyland Bus
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Some people appear to have a problem with folk not wanting to see literally anything British have a flag stuck on it
it's a train! Why don't they try to be a little more creative? For those wanting to see the Union flag, fly it from the top of major stations off a pole where it belongs??Mike Machin
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Whatever happens, even if Great British Railways survives beyond the present government after 2029 it's likely to be absolutely ages before the majority of the nationalised passenger fleet is in a cohesive corporate livery. The application of modern paint and graphics is totally different to previous times. Even up to the demise of the Mk1 'slam door' stock, repainting consisted of a quick rub-down, a bit of filler, undercoat and a one or two top coasts - with a bit of masking-out here and there. The modern paint finish comes with all sorts of manufacturer's warranties and is designed to remain in use for many, many years - the original SWT paint lasted around 15-20 years and the recent repaints was a 'back to base' application and will probably be good until the middle to late 2030s.
Bletchleyite
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It's pretty easy to vinyl over the top, though.
Sir Felix Pole
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Indeed. For me the double-arrow; dropping of 'Great' and 'ways' and all in lovely RA1 alphabet would be fantastic.Some people appear to have a problem with folk not wanting to see literally anything British have a flag stuck on it
Peter Mugridge
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Maybe they realised it would leak so they did the event with that and have since got busy with their paintbrushes and 701 046 will duly appear on the 06.14 resplendent in pink with yellow spots...That can't be it... surely?? An embargo for that???
I get that the logo is to be expected, the double arrow and the name, fine but what on earth was all the secrecy about??
Leyland Bus
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Whose flag is that??Maybe they realised it would leak so they did the event with that and have since got busy with their paintbrushes and 701 046 will duly appear on the 06.14 resplendent in pink with yellow spots...
Sun Chariot
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They'll have Noel Edmonds doing the unveiling, too.Whose flag is that??
Linked image is Mr Blobby, from BBC TV show "Noel's Hoise Party"
Mr Blobby - Wikipedia
Leyland Bus
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At this rate, what with Elenor on the East Coast, Bucket and Spade on TPE, we could have a character for each TOCThey'll have Noel Edmonds doing the unveiling, too.
Linked image is Mr Blobby, from BBC TV show "Noel's Hoise Party"
Mr Blobby - Wikipedia
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At Waterloo today. Interesting - they have a GBR sign. Also, all trains now lack any text about FirstGroup (leaving a weird gap on the Arterios). Theorising a bit - the 455s’ SWR logo looks weirdly patched on… like it’s ready to peel off and reveal something underneath. Though I don’t know if it’s just like that.
