Recent content by Paul Kelly

Right, I am not disputing that via Salford Crescent is a permitted route from Stockport to Manchester Victoria, but rather pointing out that it is not possible to make use of that permitted route due to the ticket (you would be travelling past the destination fares group to get to Salford...

That is just an example of a bug in the journey planner used by NRE, though. Someone might say it's contractually valid if you travel on the booked itinerary since contractual validity must take account of bugs in journey planners - I think that can be true whilst still being a clear case of...

Very interesting thread. I think I missed that at the time and I can't see how it would be valid; the ticket's validity would expire after Deansgate, unless it was specifically issued to Victoria. Maybe the people in that thread who say it would be valid are falling back on the case of it being...

I think your interpretation here is actually correct. The reason it is allowed is because (as island said) Deansgate is in the Manchester Stations group.

It's EMR stations: https://www.brfares.com/!locations?dest=J036

Edit: I missed that there is a new thread for this: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/orr-origin-destination-matrix-2022-23.263200/ Apologies if I've missed it quoted elsewhere, but the latest guidance from ORR shows they have applied an adjustment for split ticketing to the 2022-23 data and...

Permitted routes are totally irrelevant to how virtually all journey planners work; the fares and routeing validity are only calculated at a second stage. There will probably be some other explanation for what you've seen, maybe related to how much slower the journey is via Nottingham.

There was a bell on the platform at Worcester Foregate Street last time I was there (a few years) ago. I assumed it was just somehow relaying a bell code from the signal box rather than being specifically intended for passengers, as it did quite a few rings in quick succession. It was definitely...

My opinion FWIW: the negative easement in the routeing guide (quoted in post 6 above) is not enforceable because the validity from Waterloo to Vauxhall is due to the fact that both stations are in the London Terminals fares group, and fares groups as a concept are totally outside the routeing...

I would tend to agree - considering it was confirmed that the advance was for the 0730 TfW train: Checking on RealTimeTrains, it departed that day at 0732, and OP says which rather suggests that train travelled on was the 0810 WMR service, hence the problem?

With a Gold Card where the holder is travelling on a route covered by their annual season (and thus they don't need to purchase a separate ticket) then it is acceptable for the companion to have a different ticket. Not sure if that was the question though.

Yes, true, I maybe wasn't clear enough that the other types of search were there if you needed them; it's just that "Prefer the fastest journeys" was always there very prominently and indeed selected by default.

Link here if you can read German: https://www.hessenschau.de/wirtschaft/oberlandesgericht-stoppt-suchfunktion-in-bahn-app-v3,olg-db-suchfunktion-100.html The gist of it is that a private train operator complained to the regional court in Frankfurt-am-Main about the fact that the journey...

It's a fair point; there's no technical reason why the system can't tell you that the ticket splits between National Rail and U-zone validity at Tottenham Hale and that the restriction only applies to the first part of the journey: the journey planner knows this internally because it is...

A website that clearly shows all trains from a station on a given day is useful for times like this: https://www.brtimes.com/!board?stn=OXF&date=20230930