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Metobusfan
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Hahaha0457 for the first service train since you ask
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Blindtraveler
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It does to me anyway, thankfully nice and easy to get done compared to some things.
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And that's running through what will be platforms 8/9(/&10?), although not stopping, of course, until Aug 2016?
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Yes, that's it...
(Except being out by one with the numbers as Bald Rick has now posted.)
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P7, 8 & 9.
P10 has been in use for a year already and is a terminating platform so no through running...
The 4th eventual Charing Cross platform and track - P6 and track 6 (not yet built but the columns are in place.) will be used initially for Up Cannon Street services to pass through after Aug '16.
Starting on Xmas Eve the current tracks 4 & 5 get lift and the P4 side of the P3/4 island gets demolished along with the viaduct under the lot.
Are there any panels being re-controlled to the Three bridges ROC over Christmas? Panel 1 - Charing Cross?
There is an overview of the panels at : London Bridge Signal Box
There is an overview of the panels at : London Bridge Signal Box
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Yeah - was out by 1! Thanks all.
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Yep, panel 1 comes over to us at Christmas, as well as part of panel 3. These will go onto the Charing X workstation at Christmas.
SE side has been poor for about 8 months now. The year started really well whilst Southern side was a mess. Things started to go downhill in spring and SE have missed PPM targets on most routes through London Bridge since. The autumn has been very poor on occasion.
It just seems passenger numbers are too great, rising too fast on many lines and no spare capacity whatsoever. A small issue and it spirals. Not SE's fault most of the time. If only Thameslink was done when it should have - 10+ years ago when passenger numbers were lower - the pain would be less. Great work central govt with continual delays in approving and funding.
It just seems passenger numbers are too great, rising too fast on many lines and no spare capacity whatsoever. A small issue and it spirals. Not SE's fault most of the time. If only Thameslink was done when it should have - 10+ years ago when passenger numbers were lower - the pain would be less. Great work central govt with continual delays in approving and funding.
Peter Sarf
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Usual story.
Too little too late. Except then too much. The parallel I would draw is with electrification. A long period of nothing (decade/s) so that the experts leave and find other jobs elsewhere (in the world). Then too many ambitious projects started at the same time. That is what is happening now.
Crossrail* will soon be swallowing up the resources currently needed on other Network Rail aspirations. All the government have done is "un-pause" what should never have been attempted in the same period of time as Great Western Electrification.
*= Crossrail - I can remember, in 1988, a new East West rail link being discussed when the Central Line was getting reading for modernisation. That was nearly thirty years ago and it will be thirty years by the time it is finished hopefully. But with signalling which no-one says will work as far as I can tell. What have we been doing in the meantime apart from coping with privatisation and the replacement of slam door stock ( a government directive ). Next we throw away usable (but tired) trains because they have to have disabled loos etc. Better to spend the time and money on capacity improvements. (sorry bad day).
Too little too late. Except then too much. The parallel I would draw is with electrification. A long period of nothing (decade/s) so that the experts leave and find other jobs elsewhere (in the world). Then too many ambitious projects started at the same time. That is what is happening now.
Crossrail* will soon be swallowing up the resources currently needed on other Network Rail aspirations. All the government have done is "un-pause" what should never have been attempted in the same period of time as Great Western Electrification.
*= Crossrail - I can remember, in 1988, a new East West rail link being discussed when the Central Line was getting reading for modernisation. That was nearly thirty years ago and it will be thirty years by the time it is finished hopefully. But with signalling which no-one says will work as far as I can tell. What have we been doing in the meantime apart from coping with privatisation and the replacement of slam door stock ( a government directive ). Next we throw away usable (but tired) trains because they have to have disabled loos etc. Better to spend the time and money on capacity improvements. (sorry bad day).
The lines through platforms 7, 8 and 9 open on Jan 4th. The platforms don't open until late August.
The existing up and down Charing Cross lines through the station close on Christmas Eve, ie the line through the closed platform 4 and its counterpart that doesn't serve a platform.
ah ok, thanks for that..... so not really helping the congestion on the southeastern side then.
Is it August when the new terminus area underneath platforms 7-14 opens?
Yes under 7-15
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That was in about April/May 2017 unless it's suddenly been brought forward...
2nd Jan 2017 (the other dive under tracks are later.)
Progress on the dive under has been good and the civils should be finished by summer 2016 on the original schedule. Shame it is scheduled to take 4 months to lay the track and commission signalling!
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That is the CHX tracks date
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April/May 17 was when the 'Southern' down slow first appeared on the track plans shown in that 100 page infrarail presentation from 2014 with all the different stages in. Are revised dates online anywhere?
So it is good that it is happening slightly quicker, but even then it is still definitely not happening next summer...
Actually under 6-15. Just that the line for platform 6 won't be there, so the platform won't be open.
27 Dec 2016
Surely the Up Cannon Street services will be running through 6 when the concourse opens but not stopping there?
Those 6 Days make it look a lot better psychologically
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Those presentations tend to agglomerate several stages into one with the timing of the most important part of work being the marker rather than something secondary like the Sussex down slow opening
Surely the Up Cannon Street services will be running through 6 when the concourse opens but not stopping there?
Those 6 Days make it look a lot better psychologically
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Those presentations tend to agglomerate several stages into one with the timing of the most important part of work being the marker rather than something secondary like the Sussex down slow opening
I also was struggling to find a definitive and concise timeline, only a very vague one on the Network Rail website
Well if as said the Sussex Down slow is ahead of schedule, then hopefully it may open early. It will provide alot of relief to the congestion around South Bermondsey Junction.
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