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jimbob4life

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Hi.

I am fairly new here so sorry if this is in the wrong section:roll:

I am currently doing my train manager learning course and I was wondering if anyone was aware of any useful websites which could aid my learning and understanding.

I am looking for images of railway signage, mile marker signs, anything like that really.

Thanks all
 
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Er.... The rulebook and the signage handbook.

RSSB would be a good place to start.
 

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I suppose (again) that it's an age thing but when and how did this signage word appear? The correct adjective for a multiplicity of signs is signing.
 

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I suppose (again) that it's an age thing but when and how did this signage word appear? The correct adjective for a multiplicity of signs is signing.

Seems to be standard terminology in engineering, possibly American? "Signing" is more ambiguous, could be how deaf people communicate or what people do to documents.
 

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I suppose (again) that it's an age thing but when and how did this signage word appear? The correct adjective for a multiplicity of signs is signing.

1976 (apparently)

It's also listed in the OED so I'd say he is entitled to use it without the pointless and tedious correction; which I can't find to be correct either.

Language develops over time :roll:
 

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As far as it is safe and practical to do so - and permitted - simply get out and about on your "patch" and see what is there. If you don't know what anything is - ask - and/or look for it on the net - and - even in books.
What is on the ground in your location will be far more relevant than any book theory. What the natives call it is also significant.
On the railway practical is far more important than theory. Theory can/might get you injured/killed but getting the practical wrong definitely can.
Listen to the "old hands" - those with experience - especially when starting to "manage"... they've been doing the job for years (months at least these days).
If anyone doesn't want to answer your question - there's a significant issue of "why not?" Do they not know? If not - why not? If they don't want to tell - what's their problem?
One great thing about the railway is that what goes around comes around. So - if someone chooses to be ignorant and unhelpful today there's always a tomorrow (once you are well established) when you will be able to make life uncomfortable for them... You can always ask the same question again later. Then you can test whether they know the answer or not against what you have learnt in the meantime.
As a signalman I had a very few drivers that wanted to be awkward... Usually the more difficult they were the more they fell from grace. (Yes - a few signalmen got their comeuppance as well).

This is, of course, advice from the land that time forgot... Like - "don't let a dinosaur step on you" - especially not wile you are focused on texting... :lol:
 
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1976 (apparently)

It's also listed in the OED so I'd say he is entitled to use it without the pointless and tedious correction; which I can't find to be correct either.
The first quotation in the online OED (to which you probably have access if you're a member of a UK public library) is from 1949.
 

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In road usage I think there's a subtle difference in meaning: "signing" is the rules and conventions about how signs should be designed and placed, "signage" is the totality of signs on a particular road or in a particular area.
 

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If you're currently on a rules course you should have been issued all you need to understand current signs on your section - rule book, appendices and your company working instructions. Signs are contained in RS/521 Signals, handsignals, indicators and signs handbook. This can be downloaded from the RSSB site as a PDF.

If you want history then the excellent Railsigns site is where you want to look.
 

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If you want history then the excellent Railsigns site is where you want to look.

Thanks for the plug. Official sources are of course the first place anyone should look for information when it's for professional purposes, although I would say that RS/521 only includes standard signs and there are an awful lot of non-standard signs out there. Hopefully my website will be of some value in showing which signs/signals are in common use and which aren't, and which ones are only found in particular parts of the network.
 
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