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Aren't the new lounge cars better kitted-out and so "proper" breakfasts will be available when the new stock finally enters service?
 
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Aren't the new lounge cars better kitted-out and so "proper" breakfasts will be available when the new stock finally enters service?

Yes, I believe they are planning to fly in the breakfast bacon. The pigs are being trained already....

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The full breakfast is awful. Smoked salmon and scrambled eggs is my choice but even then it can be a bit hit and miss.
 

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The full breakfast is awful. Smoked salmon and scrambled eggs is my choice but even then it can be a bit hit and miss.

Agreed! The full breakfast looks like a cheap £1 frozen ready meal but the smoked salmon and scrambled eggs has been consistently good apart from one occasion.

With the CS prices as they are I have cut back on taking it for a while - I was waiting for the new stock but it might be a while...!
 

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Basing it on what has been said above I will give the breakfast a miss and just have the bare minimum on the train. I'll do what others have suggested and call in at Morrisons or Spoons.
Don't think I'll bother with a meal on the train in the evening either but we'll wait and see what they can offer.
 

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I thought the breakfasts were loaded en-route - Preston maybe? - so it's just a case of pulling the right amounts from stock after orders are gathered and phoned ahead


Breakfasts are loaded at Edinburgh and Euston. Preston breakfast loadings finished about18 months ago
 

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Basing it on what has been said above I will give the breakfast a miss and just have the bare minimum on the train. I'll do what others have suggested and call in at Morrisons or Spoons.
Don't think I'll bother with a meal on the train in the evening either but we'll wait and see what they can offer.
The evening meals are tasty and on the whole the quality is higher than the breakfasts. The haggis remains my personal favourite and the cheeseboard is always a nice finisher. If I fancy getting something lighter I'll take the smoked salmon salad.
 

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Agreed! The full breakfast looks like a cheap £1 frozen ready meal but the smoked salmon and scrambled eggs has been consistently good apart from one occasion.

With the CS prices as they are I have cut back on taking it for a while - I was waiting for the new stock but it might be a while...!
It reminds me of these:

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The evening meals are tasty and on the whole the quality is higher than the breakfasts. The haggis remains my personal favourite and the cheeseboard is always a nice finisher. If I fancy getting something lighter I'll take the smoked salmon salad.
+1 for the cheeseboard definitely enough for two to share in my experience
 

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I remember Serco telling a meeting that they were sourcing ingredients for specialist suppliers, often in or around Inverness. Maybe that would explain a better evening offering.
 

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My problem is that If I decide not to get something to eat before getting on the train I might not be able to get something ON the train. So stay hungry all night. As a standard class passenger would I be able to eat in the lounge car assuming there is room. I expect there will be as I am travelling up to Fort Bill on a Tuesday. Perhaps I'll take something on the train just in case.
 

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I remember Serco telling a meeting that they were sourcing ingredients for specialist suppliers, often in or around Inverness. Maybe that would explain a better evening offering.

Correct, it is a locally owned firm in Dingwall which supplies the sleeper. They also produce ready meals under a brand something like Highland Kitchen, which are very good. If the evening meals on the sleeper are anything like them (I have never partaken) they should be very acceptable.

CS have always made a song and dance about local sourcing, but gave still to understand that the potatoes they harp on about in the freebie magazine are from Dochcarty, not Docharty. They have been told many times! But not as bad as one of the typos in the current edition, which speaks of a station called St Pancreas. Truly, awful!

As for the breakfasts, I agree with the comments already made. And by the way, the hang-on-the-door order card I found in the cabin this week was for standard class instead of first class. No option to choose smoked salmon and scrambled egg! When they were planning the interim service from 25th February, reservations had the rider that catering options had not been decided. Perhaps we are getting a hint of what is to come!

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I passed polmadie this evening and saw 2 x 92 coupled up to a rake of cs carriages
There didnt seem to be any seated coaches of brakes attached. Is this part of the normal formation/shunting process?

It looked a little odd
 

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My problem is that If I decide not to get something to eat before getting on the train I might not be able to get something ON the train. So stay hungry all night. As a standard class passenger would I be able to eat in the lounge car assuming there is room. I expect there will be as I am travelling up to Fort Bill on a Tuesday. Perhaps I'll take something on the train just in case.
Remember that you board at 830pm. Negotiate with the lounge staff over evening and morning and if they're full up and can't help then hotfoot it back to M&S at Euston, you've got 45 mins to get supplies before departure.

What night of the week are you travelling north, this may affect the flexibility of the crew you're dealing with?

The other thing to say about the evening is that even if they're full at 845 you're quite likely to get a table an hour later as people head off to bed.
 
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I passed polmadie this evening and saw 2 x 92 coupled up to a rake of cs carriages
There didnt seem to be any seated coaches of brakes attached. Is this part of the normal formation/shunting process?

It looked a little odd
Were they both CS livery? (018, 028 and 038 were the 92s there today - 028 blue/orange, the other two CS livery, but you probably knew that ;))

Does seem unusual for them to be coupled - could have just been half way through shunting (e.g. if the locos are stabled together over the weekend, they may go as a pair to the first rake of carriages, then one comes off and goes on the other...?)

TOPS is indicating it's 92038 (ECS loco) + 92028 (for 1M11) either end of 5M11 into Glasgow and 92018 on 5C11 to Edinburgh, so no unusual double-headed 92s if that is correct.
 

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I passed polmadie this evening and saw 2 x 92 coupled up to a rake of cs carriages
There didnt seem to be any seated coaches of brakes attached. Is this part of the normal formation/shunting process?

It looked a little odd

Was heading home from Glasgow late afternoon and saw that too. Wondered pretty much the same thing.
 

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On the highlander tonight. Orders straight in for tomorrow. Surprised to find my Pot of Tea and Breakfast only came to £3.50. Attendant told me the tea is free. Bargain ( I hope)
 

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one was CS blue the other was in GBRF orange
Presumably must just be the way they shunt them on to the stock (post weekend?)

028 (blue & orange) ended up attached to the south end of the Glasgow portion, with 038 (CS blue) on the other (GLC) end for the ECS drag; and 018 (also CS blue) would've been attached to the southern/eastern end of the 5C11 Edinburgh portion stock.
 

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Although the full breakfast might be underwhelming (I suggest getting the bacon roll) it's worth having the evening meal in the lounge car, one of the pleaaures of using the service. When it's busy, you just have to come back an hour or so later after the first sitting have had their meals. It usually quietens down considerably. I've always been able to get something to eat, even if sometimes a couple of things on the menu have sold out.
 

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Problems with the lowlander ECS (5M11) at Euston this morning. It appeared to depart on time but then go back into the station. 90016 has been sent to haul it out which implies a problem with the original ECS loco 86101?
 

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86101 had issues on departure, the delay was compounded by only having one driver available for 5M11 and 5M16.
 

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Remember that you board at 830pm. Negotiate with the lounge staff over evening and morning and if they're full up and can't help then hotfoot it back to M&S at Euston, you've got 45 mins to get supplies before departure.

What night of the week are you travelling north, this may affect the flexibility of the crew you're dealing with?

The other thing to say about the evening is that even if they're full at 845 you're quite likely to get a table an hour later as people head off to bed.
Travelling up to Fort William on a Tuesday evening and coming back south on the Thursday evening.
 

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Hearing rumours* that 1C11 is in the hands of a Colas 47 tonight.
*Seen a picture from a friend of a friend

Can anyone confirm or deny?
 

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Hearing rumours* that 1C11 is in the hands of a Colas 47 tonight.
*Seen a picture from a friend of a friend

Can anyone confirm or deny?

I've seen a post of Facebook from someone that claims to have seen a 92 heading towards Edinburgh (with the empties) with a Colas 47 tagged onto the rear. I've seen nothing more than that though.

If that info's correct, it'll likely be 749 as that worked 5M11 last night and is the only active 47 still running around in the Colas livery (739 at Eastleigh, 727 no longer in the livery). I'd also assume the 92 was 028 and has gone over for 1M16 later.
 
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