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Grand Central to use LHCS to cover unreliability?

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ive just seen on twitter that Grand Central are to use a loco-hauled Mk2 set to help plug the gaps left by the reliability issues with the class 180s.

EDIT: Quote added from twitter account @ambassador_suit
https://twitter.com/ambassador_suit/status/1033008977951510528
‘So Grand central to be using Loco Hauled with Mk2s as a short term measure for unreliable 180s

7 Mk2s taken to Doncaster Belmont Yard by 67013 67015 earlier today’
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Can anyone confirm or deny or offer other information?
Cheers!
 
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Have you got a link to the tweet?
 
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Is 180 availability that bad, or is it related to racing at York or some other event?

Grand Central have 10 units and only need 6 for daily service. Allowing for 1 to be at Eastleigh for refurbishment etc still leaves 9 for 6, that's 66.67% availability which should be easily achievable.
 
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67013+67015 with coaching stock Burton-Doncaster earlier today
 
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TheBigD said:
Is 180 availability that bad, or is it related to racing at York or some other event?

Grand Central have 10 units and only need 6 for daily service. Allowing for 1 to be at Eastleigh for refurbishment etc still leaves 9 for 6, that's 66.67% availability which should be easily achievable.
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Not wholly correct, there are 7x SX Class 180 diagrams from the total of 10x units. 1x at Eastleigh, 1x B Exam at Crofton and 1x Heavy Maintenance at Heaton and the picture does look somewhat tighter!
 
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Seen the 07xx been mentioned a lot on twitter ! Cancelled or started further south
 
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wensley said:
Not wholly correct, there are 7x SX Class 180 diagrams from the total of 10x units. 1x at Eastleigh, 1x B Exam at Crofton and 1x Heavy Maintenance at Heaton and the picture does look somewhat tighter!
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Fair enough. Cheers for the full picture. Out of interest, I work it out as 2 from Sunderland in the morning, 1 from Kings Cross, and 3 from Bradford in the morning. Where does the seventh diagram fit in please? Does one of the units get swapped during the day?
 
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TheBigD said:
Fair enough. Cheers for the full picture. Out of interest, I work it out as 2 from Sunderland in the morning, 1 from Kings Cross, and 3 from Bradford in the morning. Where does the seventh diagram fit in please? Does one of the units get swapped during the day?
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The 7th diagram (HT187) operates a service on behalf of Northern - 1S99 1725 Leeds to Hebden Bridge with empties to/from Crofton ... not the most intensive diagram but still restricts what else can be done with that unit during the day (can't be the B Exam set for example).

Not sure where the story about anything being cancelled / altered tomorrow has come from!
 
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Interesting decision to lease MK2s.. with a max speed of 100mph. Needed some offlease HSTs to be honest.
 
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wensley said:
The 7th diagram (HT187) operates a service on behalf of Northern - 1S99 1725 Leeds to Hebden Bridge with empties to/from Crofton ... not the most intensive diagram but still restricts what else can be done with that unit during the day (can't be the B Exam set for example).

Not sure where the story about anything being cancelled / altered tomorrow has come from!
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It hadn't occurred to me that 1S99 does not work off a KX - Bradford train. This was new in the May timetable, whereas the morning service (1S98, 0702 ex HBD) was already running (from Halifax) and takes up the 10.22 ex Bradford.
 
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Reported on WNXX that the 67's are heading south on an additional 1338 Doncaster - Kings Cross.
 
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According to what they've sent out on Tyrell it'll be running as 1Z68 leaving Kings Cross at 17:14, calling Doncaster (set down only) and York.
 
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Skimble19 said:
According to what they've sent out on Tyrell it'll be running as 1Z68 leaving Kings Cross at 17:14, calling Doncaster (set down only) and York.
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Was the Peterborough stop on the Up service a Set Down then?
 
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Crew change only.
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Ahh, fair enough was actually surprised that Peterborough PSB put it on the Up Fast between Stoke Junction and Peterborough as expected it to be put on the Up Slow instead.
 
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Got some hefty layovers on the way up at Stoke Jct (6 mins) and then a 40min layover at Babworth loop.
 
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Funny that for something said to be on stand by the stock went back to Burton on Tuesday. I wonder if it comes back this weekend, what with Euston closed again
 
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