A career as a signaller

Highlandspring · 22 Feb 2019

Sabs5296 said:
And it doesn’t say anywhere that the shortlisted candidates will be going to signalling school, just says “you will be expected to undertake a 2 week residential signalling appreciation course and undertake shadowing of current signaller and controller roles”

It’s certainly intriguing....

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Sunset route · 22 Feb 2019

Sabs5296 said:
Hi everyone, can anyone enlighten me about the signaller role ( traffic management) at three bridges ASC and ROC? What does traffic management mean? And how is it different from regular signalling? And it doesn’t say anywhere that the shortlisted candidates will be going to signalling school, just says “you will be expected to undertake a 2 week residential signalling appreciation course and undertake shadowing of current signaller and controller roles” any Info on this will be greatly appreciated

Cavan said:
I was just going to ask about the 12 "traffic management" roles at Three Bridges - IRC is 2143310 and looks like it will hit the external list tomrrow as was on today's "Job alert" email (which seems to be working again now)

As rough idea, you will be train running controllers that will be using the “train management workstations” to alter and amend the the train running plan, which in turn will interface to the signallers workstations (TBROC) and the ARS at (TBACS panels), thus signalling by proxy but without having to be rules trained. The signallers will still be in charge of the safety of the line and will have the ability to signal trains via their normal interfaces as well as having the ability turn the “Train Management” interface off and leaving your solutions as an advisory only.

Highlandspring · 22 Feb 2019

Out of interest what grade are these positions advertised as?

Sabs5296 · 22 Feb 2019

Highlandspring said:
Out of interest what grade are these positions advertised as?

Grade 5

David 90825 · 23 Feb 2019

A few months ago someone reported in one thread that he/she could get MyConnect at home. Can any of my NR signaller colleagues tell me how I can set up my home PC in order to obtain NR's MyConnect? Will it also allow me to access my NR e-mail account? Presumably it will need the permission of both IT and my LOM.
Thank you.

Highlandspring · 23 Feb 2019

If you already have a personal account you don’t need to set anything up or get permission from anyone. Just point your browser to the MyConnect address, enter your username (remembering the @networkrail.co.uk bit) and password and you’re in. It doesn’t, however, give access to your emails or to the internal vacancy site or many of the other useful tools and sites which remain accessible only from internal computers. You can also access Yammer from home too, though why you would want to do either of these things is beyond me.

nom de guerre · 23 Feb 2019

David 90825 said:
A few months ago someone reported in one thread that he/she could get MyConnect at home. Can any of my NR signaller colleagues tell me how I can set up my home PC in order to obtain NR's MyConnect? Will it also allow me to access my NR e-mail account? Presumably it will need the permission of both IT and my LOM.

You have PM :smile:

Highlandspring said:
If you already have a personal account you don’t need to set anything up or get permission from anyone. Just point your browser to the MyConnect address, enter your username (remembering the @networkrail.co.uk bit) and password and you’re in. It doesn’t, however, give access to your emails or to the internal vacancy site or many of the other useful tools and sites which remain accessible only from internal computers. You can also access Yammer from home too, though why you would want to do either of these things is beyond me.

I'm able to access my work emails and full-fat MyConnect (including the internal vacancy list) from my home PC.

If you work 12s, you can be without internal access for a fortnight or more. That's easily long enough to miss a time-sensitive interview invite or the closing date for a coveted internal job.

Validation · 23 Feb 2019

nom de guerre said:
You have PM

Could I get the same PM please

nom de guerre · 23 Feb 2019

Validation said:
Could I get the same PM please

Done

Highlandspring · 23 Feb 2019

nom de guerre said:
I'm able to access my work emails and full-fat MyConnect (including the internal vacancy list) from my home PC.

If you work 12s, you can be without internal access for a fortnight or more. That's easily long enough to miss a time-sensitive interview invite or the closing date for a coveted internal job.

That would be very useful. Presumably you have a keyfob.

Judochop · 23 Feb 2019

Sunset route said:
As rough idea, you will be train running controllers that will be using the “train management workstations” to alter and amend the the train running plan, which in turn will interface to the signallers workstations (TBROC) and the ARS at (TBACS panels), thus signalling by proxy but without having to be rules trained. The signallers will still be in charge of the safety of the line and will have the ability to signal trains via their normal interfaces as well as having the ability turn the “Train Management” interface off and leaving your solutions as an advisory only.

If their on the 12hr roster and get their Sundays and nights, that could be a pretty sweet deal.

Since I'm already a signaller I wonder if I would have to do the 2 week signaller appreciation course, I doubt it but wouldn't say no to 2 weeks all paid for in York.

nom de guerre · 23 Feb 2019

Highlandspring said:
That would be very useful. Presumably you have a keyfob.

I did. Additional verification has recently switched to Symantec VIP.

Tom Quinne · 23 Feb 2019

TMS hasn’t been that well received down here in Dragon Country.

Sunset route · 23 Feb 2019

Judochop said:
If their on the 12hr roster and get their Sundays and nights, that could be a pretty sweet deal.

Since I'm already a signaller I wonder if I would have to do the 2 week signaller appreciation course, I doubt it but wouldn't say no to 2 weeks all paid for in York.

They is no roster yet, as the jobs have only just been consulted in and there are as of yet no staff for the REPs to work with to produce a roster and get it signed off.

cogload · 24 Feb 2019

To answer a question which has been circulated on here - all NR staff on the Wessex route get the "free travel" card within the SWR area. That includes new entrant signallers.

Unprotected NR staff on the Western AIUI get the equivalent of BR boxes, so a limited amount of free travel within the Great Western area.

From reading the latest RMT pay circular NR and the TOCs are exploring extending either discounted/ free travel nationwide to unprotected staff throughout the land. This may take some time to bring in.

Narom · 24 Feb 2019

Do all signal boxes have computers then to access emails etc? I'd have thought some of the more rural ones would struggle to get internet to them.

Highlandspring · 24 Feb 2019

Narom said:
Do all signal boxes have computers then to access emails etc? I'd have thought some of the more rural ones would struggle to get internet to them.

Everywhere does now, yes. Some rural locations are on satellite connections. There was a huge IT connectivity program to instal terminals in all signalboxes around 2007/08.

carriageline · 24 Feb 2019

nom de guerre said:
You have PM

I'm able to access my work emails and full-fat MyConnect (including the internal vacancy list) from my home PC.

If you work 12s, you can be without internal access for a fortnight or more. That's easily long enough to miss a time-sensitive interview invite or the closing date for a coveted internal job.

How have you got email access? PM Plwase!

Jaysub · 25 Feb 2019

Is it always the case of some one internal getting a job over some one external??

Got my 1st interview wednesday...

Thistley · 25 Feb 2019

With regards to the Traffic Management signaller positions open at Three Bridges ROC/ASC right now, can anyone shed some light on it? Does it cover the Thameslink core, or will it also cover the East London Line?

I managed to find this article - https://www.railwaygazette.com/news...grees-sussex-traffic-management-strategy.html - but it seems a bit vague on the routes covered.

Sunset route · 25 Feb 2019

Thistley said:
With regards to the Traffic Management signaller positions open at Three Bridges ROC/ASC right now, can anyone shed some light on it? Does it cover the Thameslink core, or will it also cover the East London Line?

I managed to find this article - https://www.railwaygazette.com/news...grees-sussex-traffic-management-strategy.html - but it seems a bit vague on the routes covered.

Yes Thameslink Core and the Brighton Main Line London Bridge to Brighton, but not the East London Line.

The job is signaller grade and not a signaller, as such there is no requirement to attend signalling school or pass out qualified as a signaller.

If you wish to become a signaller proper then applications via the internal list will have to submitted when the become available.

6 jobs will be in TBASC
6 jobs will be in TBROC

Not sure if they a if they will on the same roster and rotate around all both locations or two separate rosters for each location.

As of yet, no desks or workstations have been installed or roster agreed (as this is a new job then the staff will get a chance to decide their roster via their union reps when everyone has been appointed).

DanH · 25 Feb 2019

Jaysub said:
Is it always the case of some one internal getting a job over some one external??

Got my 1st interview wednesday...

Well done on the interview.. and good luck for it

What I’m told is that the jobs get offered internally first... and if there is no internal interest then the position is posted externally.. so I’m assuming there are no internal applicants for the externally placed jobs anyways!

Out of curiosity, which position do you have an interview for?

Cavan · 25 Feb 2019

DanH said:
Well done on the interview.. and good luck for it

What I’m told is that the jobs get offered internally first... and if there is no internal interest then the position is posted externally.. so I’m assuming there are no internal applicants for the externally placed jobs anyways!

Out of curiosity, which position do you have an interview for?

Not always the case at all - I've been to an interview with NR with a mix of internal and external candidates.

DanH · 25 Feb 2019

Cavan said:
Not always the case at all - I've been to an interview with NR with a mix of internal and external candidates.

Ohh I see, Maybe I have been misinformed?

So what makes the difference between a position posted external from internal do you know?

galaxynew · 25 Feb 2019

DanH said:
Well done on the interview.. and good luck for it

What I’m told is that the jobs get offered internally first... and if there is no internal interest then the position is posted externally.. so I’m assuming there are no internal applicants for the externally placed jobs anyways!

Out of curiosity, which position do you have an interview for?

I would presume (but i'm not in a position to confirm) that if there was little interest internally they would go external, sure i have read in here that for most signaller positions 5 applicants get selected for interview so if that is the case then the 5 could be from both internal and external applicants if less than 5 internal either applied or reached the required benchmark on tests.

You would then hope that best candidate out of the 5 would get the job irrespective if internal or external?

DanH · 25 Feb 2019

galaxynew said:
I would presume (but i'm not in a position to confirm) that if there was little interest internally they would go external, sure i have read in here that for most signaller positions 5 applicants get selected for interview so if that is the case then the 5 could be from both internal and external applicants if less than 5 internal either applied or reached the required benchmark on tests.

You would then hope that best candidate out of the 5 would get the job irrespective if internal or external?

Ahh I’m with you, that seems reasonable in all honesty.
My “source” also said that the total number of applicants invited for interview is 5, however apparently it can vary depending on the particular manager preference. I must say 5 is quite a small number really when the number of applicants passed forward to that stage is usually 100+ haha!

I’m currently on “application under consideration for assessment 2” for a position . Will be 6 weeks tomorrow I’ve waited for an update or an interview date!

It’s like torture!

Reading and joining this forum was the best thing I ever did for info regarding waiting times etc.

Sunset route · 25 Feb 2019

DanH said:
Ohh I see, Maybe I have been misinformed?

So what makes the difference between a position posted external from internal do you know?

I would say it’s the hiring managers point of view. Our grade 9 positions at my location were advertised both internally and externally at the same time and 3/4 of them went to external candidates.

galaxynew · 25 Feb 2019

DanH said:
Ahh I’m with you, that seems reasonable in all honesty.
My “source” also said that the total number of applicants invited for interview is 5, however apparently it can vary depending on the particular LOM preference. I must say 5 is quite a small number really when the number of applicants passed forward to that stage is usually 100+ haha!

I’m currently on “application under consideration for assessment 2” for a position . Will be 6 weeks tomorrow I’ve waited for an update or an interview date!

It’s like torture!

Reading and joining this forum was the best thing I ever did for info regarding waiting times etc.

I thought the 5 put forward for interview are selected by HR based on a point scoring exercise from the application process (CV, 69 Questions and Online Assessment), not sure the LOM has any say in who they get to interview and is just given the 5 names.

Could be wrong on this of course and sure some with good knowledge on here will advise.

Thistley · 25 Feb 2019

Sunset route said:
Yes Thameslink Core and the Brighton Main Line London Bridge to Brighton, but not the East London Line.

The job is signaller grade and not a signaller, as such there is no requirement to attend signalling school or pass out qualified as a signaller.

If you wish to become a signaller proper then applications via the internal list will have to submitted when the become available.

6 jobs will be in TBASC
6 jobs will be in TBROC

Not sure if they a if they will on the same roster and rotate around all both locations or two separate rosters for each location.

As of yet, no desks or workstations have been installed or roster agreed (as this is a new job then the staff will get a chance to decide their roster via their union reps when everyone has been appointed).

Thank you! I'm not bothered whether I become a proper signaller at this moment actually, getting a foot in the door matters more especially when there's so much competition with externals!

Jaysub · 25 Feb 2019

DanH said:
Well done on the interview.. and good luck for it

What I’m told is that the jobs get offered internally first... and if there is no internal interest then the position is posted externally.. so I’m assuming there are no internal applicants for the externally placed jobs anyways!

Out of curiosity, which position do you have an interview for?

Thanks bud,this thread has helped me loads...

I have heard they would of got down to 4-6 applicants...

The job is haslemere relief but would rather haslemere resident but am happy to just get in if i can

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