Jordan Adam
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Stagecoach here seemed more than keen to repaint the Ex-D&E deckers, one of which soon turns 20 years old! So you never know...
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Stagecoach here seemed more than keen to repaint the Ex-D&E deckers, one of which soon turns 20 years old! So you never know...
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Goldfish62
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TheGrandWazoo
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Wasn't that painting out of D&E livery? Not quite the same
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Also, with existing vehicles, when they get a repainted, will the seating get retrimmed as well? If so, it'll look bizarre seeing the classic Stagecoach interior but without the blue and orange material on the seating. Maybe an opportunity to replace the seating with e-leather?
Jordan Adam
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Painted in to dealer white and then a few months later the beachball colours added on top.
Hopefully not.
I wouldn't have thought that vehicles would automatically be retrimmed at the same time, especially newer buses that don't need it.
cnjb8
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I thought the ones in Interconnect livery were being painted out of it
TheGrandWazoo
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Strange one given that many newer have been binned.
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As in the purple Lincolnshire Interconnect one?
Also, is the 350 Fastcat livery getting scrapped too considering it is entirely different to any beachball livery?
Nowhere has 'good' Darts spare - the ones being disposed always have issues (don't forget the youngest Darts are now 14 years old), or have become parts donors to some extent.
The only exception to this is where dealers have come requesting specific vehicles - e.g. Ensign recently offered a good price for any 2006 Darts for a customer, so a batch went from Basingstoke.
Basically, for Bedford it's better the devil you know - especially with the issues they're facing.
cnjb8
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Yes, but as I think about it, I'm not to sure as I heard rumours before the new livery came out.
No the FastCat will stay as its joint with East Yorkshire. Pronto is also staying as four new E400s have been delivered in Pronto colours to replace TrentBartons operation on this route
TheGrandWazoo
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No, you're right. If you've a 53 plate that can last another year or an 05 plate where the tin worm has got to work on the chassis, it makes perfect sense. Not that the remaining Darts are great (they are all an age) and it is surprising that a 53 plate would be so treated.
You didn't see the state of some of Bedford's Darts before repaint then! They had become somewhat of a forgotten depot and presentation was extremely poor.
There is an argument to say that they should have prioritised getting the ex-Coasthopper vehicles into corporate livery, but you could also argue that the paint on them was/is still fine, so the most dire vehicles should get priority.
In the grand scheme of things, the repaints aren't seen as a massive cost due to being done in-house. The paintshop and staff are treated as a fixed overhead (capability is required for any minor accident repairs), so the cost per bus comes down to around £50 in paint.
TheGrandWazoo
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Oh I did, visiting on the 41! Fine machines for a trunk route. Bedford has always had that sort of approach, even in NBC days. In fact, it is one of those abiding rules of bus companies in that certain depots have differing standards or are favoured (or not).
And yes, I do appreciate that the fixed elements of facilities and staff can be regarded as a sunk cost but there are obvious issues with doing that!
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Does anyone know how many paint shops Stagecoach have? Even assuming 2/3 repaint per week it will be a big job to repaint 5500 buses (outside London), even allowing for new stock.
py_megapixel
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In case this hasn't already been mentioned, the revised logo now appears on stagecoachbus.com and the onboard WiFi landing page.
All other online branding remains the same.
All other online branding remains the same.
Jordan Adam
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Yes this has been the case for around two weeks now, the website was one of the first places where the new logo appeared.
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Stagecoach East electric buses revealed... the green has gone. Not sure if that’s an allover wrap or if they repainted it white?
https://mobile.twitter.com/itvanglia/status/1227293246361088001
https://mobile.twitter.com/itvanglia/status/1227293246361088001
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I don't think the Cambridge electric buses ever had green, I think the ones that were used for driver training were from Manchester?
py_megapixel
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I was having some internet troubles, so this is the first time I've actually seen a picture of the new livery.
I must say, it's more of an evolution of Beachball than a new design, but I don't mind it. I'm certainly glad to (eventually) see the back of the garish blue and orange interiors (although that massive Stagecoach logo on the front does look a little garish IMO).
I assume that most of the Enviro fleet - including the older versions which aren't MMCs - will see the new livery at some point?
I must say, it's more of an evolution of Beachball than a new design, but I don't mind it. I'm certainly glad to (eventually) see the back of the garish blue and orange interiors (although that massive Stagecoach logo on the front does look a little garish IMO).
I assume that most of the Enviro fleet - including the older versions which aren't MMCs - will see the new livery at some point?
Bletchleyite
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So when they said "there will be 3 liveries" they meant "there will be a million variants like there are now". What did they do this for again?
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There are photos of E200 26026 at Rotherham on Facebook outshopped in the new local livery. It looks absolutely dreadful.
Can't repost here as they are copyrighted.
Can't repost here as they are copyrighted.
Bletchleyite
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As I mentioned above, they really need a certain all-weather 1980s-style shorts wearer to go along and bash them round the head with it, then design them something that's actually nice.
Goldfish62
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He did very well indeed with the previous livery.
Bletchleyite
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Agreed, I'm less than convinced that it was broke, let alone that it needed fixing.
I don't know why they didn't settle on blue to the lower deck windows and red between decks with the rest white. Single deckers blue to the top of wheel-arches, red roof and the rest white. This would have been easier to apply and helped minimise dirt on the lower panels. Just a suggestion.
tbtc
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That's what I don't get... the "beachball" years saw it as a recognisable template which was flexible enough to adapt - e.g. in Manchester you had regular Stagecoach, the green version for eco-friendlier "hybrid" vehicles and the predominantly blue "magicbus" version - all said "Stagecoach" though. Same with the versions used on trains/ trams - same with the "gold" version - similar enough (to show they were part of the same family) and different enough to show passengers which type of service they belonged to.
Now, they've "simplified" it but then straight away are coming up with non-standard versions - at this rate we'll probably see various local subsidiaries coming up with their own "tweaks" on the livery...
Bletchleyite
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I wonder if the reason why they're doing it is actually that now Souter has gone the other senior management want to put their stamp on it, and the rest of the wibble about reasons for it is just a justification to do something they wanted to do anyway.
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