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ECML Problems - 14/02/2024

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Appears to be an issue between Doncaster and York. Being reported as overhead line problems by LNER on X and OpenTrainTimes maps showing 1A97 stopped between Temple Hirst Junction and Doncaster. Not sure if it's connected but 1Z99 now approaching Doncaster from the south.

Edited to add original source from X (formerly Twitter) - LNER page. Hopefully this works.

"Hi there, there is minor damage to the overhead line equipment in the Doncaster area. Network Rail are currently in the process of rectifying this, so we can get trains moving as quickly as possible."
https://twitter.com/LNER/status/1757866205212266671?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
 
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As a result of this my train north to Darlington was cancelled and I'm currently waiting at Peterborough for the next northbound, although the staff here are not filling me with confidence about the chances of getting north of Doncaster...
 
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802305 hull trains unit has reported to have brought down the wires and smashed
A window screen
 
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Catenary wire down behind 1A97 which has some smashed windows, it’s in the Balne Crossing area.

1N32/1E25 diverting via Leeds, E25 waiting at York for E29.

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802305 hull trains unit has reported to have brought down the wires and smashed
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Wire down and train came in contact with the damage.
 
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1N96 GC to Sunderland diverted via Knottingley and Milford Junction. Now approaching York.
 
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The benefit of having bimodes like the 800 is being able to divert onto non-electrified routes like Leeds-York. Though LNER only operate a few of them.
 
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LNER always run with rear pantograph up because if there is a problem it just rips that one off and hopefully no other damage. I wonder why other train operating companies run with front one up.
 
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LNER always run with rear pantograph up because if there is a problem it just rips that one off and hopefully no other damage. I wonder why other train operating companies run with front one up.
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Even that tonight would not have helped. The wires were down, the first driver knew is when it crashed into the front of the train.
 
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Sadly the ECML has had a bit of a rough old day today. I this morning was heading to York for the day while on my TP 802 outside of Huddersfield we got an announcement that our train was been terminated at Leeds due to an incident near Chester-le-Street which turned out to be a fatality sadly. Every train arriving into York was been cancelled and turned back apart from TP Saltburn trips. This afternoon while that incident was cleared up earlier a track inspection was causing more delays to services coming from the North. Although my TP back to Manchester around 30mins down it managed to make up 17mins by Manchester. Now the OHLE Damage... three different things.. they do say it comes in three!..
 
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1N32/1E25 diverting via Leeds, E25 waiting at York for E29.
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Nearly a 3 hour wait at York for 1E25. That's going to be cosy, as 1E29 will also have the passengers from 1E27 (1830 Edinburgh-KX) which was terminated at Newcastle.
 
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HST125Scorton said:
Sadly the ECML has had a bit of a rough old day today. I this morning was heading to York for the day while on my TP 802 outside of Huddersfield we got an announcement that our train was been terminated at Leeds due to an incident near Chester-le-Street which turned out to be a fatality sadly. Every train arriving into York was been cancelled and turned back apart from TP Saltburn trips. This afternoon while that incident was cleared up earlier a track inspection was causing more delays to services coming from the North. Although my TP back to Manchester around 30mins down it managed to make up 17mins by Manchester. Now the OHLE Damage... three different things.. they do say it comes in three!..
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And also been stopped at Cramlington this evening with services held for over an hour, following multiple reports of trespassers on the line and also reports of a body.
Police had the drone up searching.
So a bad day on the ECML.

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Nearly a 3 hour wait at York for 1E25. That's going to be cosy, as 1E29 will also have the passengers from 1E27 (1830 Edinburgh-KX) which was terminated at Newcastle.
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1E25 is also awaiting crew to route conduct it via Leeds, these are coming up on 1N32.

Its crew from the Hull service.

1S31 set swap at Doncaster with unit ex Hull and will also now divert via Leeds.
 
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Narrowgauge725 said:
LNER always run with rear pantograph up because if there is a problem it just rips that one off and hopefully no other damage. I wonder why other train operating companies run with front one up.
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There’s certain scenarios with the overheads in the rulebook that permit the train to coast if the pantograph is on one of the front three vehicles.
 
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There’s certain scenarios with the overheads in the rulebook that permit the train to coast if the pantograph is on one of the front three vehicles.
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LNER coast with pantograph on the rear coach.
 
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Does anybody have any intel on the plan for 1N35 beyond Doncaster?
 
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Does anybody have any intel on the plan for 1N35 beyond Doncaster?
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There hoping for the down like to be open at caution I believe, if not I don’t know
Update seen a message stating 1N35 will head through on the down, will switch to its diesel engine in station at Doncaster. As soon as that passes possession will be granted to fix issue
 
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2315 1E25 has finally left York heading S on the Leeds lines. 1Z99 stopped near Holgate sidings - possibly to take 1E29 or 1M80 south?
 
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Narrowgauge725 said:
LNER always run with rear pantograph up because if there is a problem it just rips that one off and hopefully no other damage. I wonder why other train operating companies run with front one up.
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I thought pantograph usage was decided by aerodynamics, on trains with pantographs facing multiple ways, you want the one that breaks the air more (the "pointier" end) facing the direction of travel.
On the Pendolinos I noticed the back one is in use all the time, but until recently didn't know that was why.
 
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800001 said:
There hoping for the down like to be open at caution I believe, if not I don’t know
Update seen a message stating 1N35 will head through on the down, will switch to its diesel engine in station at Doncaster. As soon as that passes possession will be granted to fix issue
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Many thanks for the update! :)
 
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LNER coast with pantograph on the rear coach.
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Obviously. But if, for example, the line light has been lost and can’t be regained. Under certain rulebook conditions LNER would be required to stop immediately whereas GWR, who run with the pantograph up on the front, could potentially coast or switch to diesel and carry on.
 
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2355 - 1M80 mail train now heading south through Church Fenton towards Leeds passing 1S31 heading north from Leeds. Going to be some late arrivals.
 
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I frequently get the 1900 Kings Cross to Edinburgh service - I see that this was cancelled at Doncaster, with presumably no way to get passengers any further north. So, what will LNER have done with everyone bound for Newcastle, Berwick, and Edinburgh?
 
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enginedin said:
I frequently get the 1900 Kings Cross to Edinburgh service - I see that this was cancelled at Doncaster, with presumably no way to get passengers any further north. So, what will LNER have done with everyone bound for Newcastle, Berwick, and Edinburgh?
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See above - that is 1S31. Everyone put on a bi-mode set at Doncaster and got to York about 15 mins ago, where I alighted. It is supposedly going as far as Newcastle but not sure what happens to folk for points north of there.
 
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enginedin said:
I frequently get the 1900 Kings Cross to Edinburgh service - I see that this was cancelled at Doncaster, with presumably no way to get passengers any further north. So, what will LNER have done with everyone bound for Newcastle, Berwick, and Edinburgh?
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See previous post, this service wasn't cancelled in the end but had a set swap and was diverted via Leeds. It's currently been York and Thirsk.
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1S31 set swap at Doncaster with unit ex Hull and will also now divert via Leeds.
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