They still come to Doncaster, there is a Sheffield-Doncaster stopper on a Sunday I think it's the 19.06 that I'd say 1 in 4 is a 195.
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Where has a 195 been?
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Halish Railway
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It’s been mentioned earlier regarding testing, but a 195 did work a return trip from Leeds to Bradford Forster Square on a strike day a while back.
NoMorePacers
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I do recall about 4/5 years ago that 195s visited Hull a couple of times on test, from memory they did a couple Doncaster - Hull trips for that purpose (I cannot remember if they went via Selby or Goole though).
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I believe before the landslip a service (last one of the night from Sheffield) went via Stockport
PHWO
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A while back, the first Nottingham to Leeds was formed of ECS ex-Sheffield and ran via Belper, Derby, Long Eaton. Similarly, the last arrival into Nottingham went back that way too. Not sure if it was route knowledge retention or engineering works, but could a 195 have done that?
They did a number of weeks from Doncaster to hull via goole on driver training runs .
One reason is that there are a lot of crew changes at Blackburn and they don't currently sign 195s. It's likely you'd end up with 195 stuck up there. They couldn't even move it to the depot with out some special arrangements
Yes a 195 has been via Derby, the evening working eventually became a little bit earlier and that was booked a 195 in the later days before Northerns route knowledge via Derby got cut.
Those trips were for route knowledge retention, Northern used it to run an 0919 departure from Nottingham on a Sunday morning. The empty for it had to go via Derby as the Erewash was shut for Section 4 possessions before 0920. This train no longer runs and starts at Sheffield.
195s have run via Bolton right from when they started in service. When the Lake District to Manchester Airport service generally ran via Wigan, there was an early evening service that ran non stop from Preston to Oxford Rd through Bolton.
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There was an unplanned 195 empty stock movement from King Street to Newton Heath one day last year, which reversed in the bay platform at Blackburn and ran via Darwen/Bromley Cross.
I've a feeling it was a balancing move on or after a strike day.
My photo of 195010 at Derby in 2021. These route retention runs no longer run and all Nottingham services run via the Erewash nowadays
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Can't remember when, but I think at least one has gone via St. Helens Central, substituting for a 331.
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There was a booked 195 during covid on a Sunday, on the 0833 Manchester Victoria to Blackburn via Todmorden, as it formed a York from Blackburn.
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A 195 running on the Harrogate Line this evening...
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Realtime Trains | 5Z30 2017 York to Holbeck Loco Sidings | 03/04/2024
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A 195 running on the Harrogate Line this evening...
Realtime Trains | 5Z30 2017 York to Holbeck Loco Sidings | 03/04/2024
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Might go and photograph that if I remember, certainly a rare move.
Bletchleyite
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A very sensible one - mechanical transmission means less lost fuel stirring transmission fluid up, and the standbacks help a lot when busy. I can barely think of a line more suited to them than that - very similar to e.g. the east Manchester locals where they are very often used these days.
195 on Harrogate Line tonight on a trail run
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Realtime Trains | 5Z30 2017 York to Holbeck Loco Sidings | 03/04/2024
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As discussed in the three posts above yours...195 on Harrogate Line tonight on a trail run
Realtime Trains | 5Z30 2017 York to Holbeck Loco Sidings | 03/04/2024
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I can confirm they've been on the Penistone Line, I've travelled on one in service, it was a Sunday.
I believe the last service out of Leeds to Sheffield via Westgate is almost always a 195.
There was a day in February 2023 where one appeared on Sheffield-Adwick stoppers all day, not sure if it had happened before or has since. https://flic.kr/p/2ootRJz
At least one 195 has done a Sheffield - Penistone - Huddersfield before.
There's a couple of evening Leeds - Barnsley - Sheffield stoppers booked 195 which take them to Castleford daily. There's also a booked Sheffield - Leeds via Moorthorpe 195 turn daily, and in the event of any disruption via Barnsley the Leeds - Sheffield - Nottingham/Lincoln stoppers are diverted between Leeds and Meadowhall via Wakefield Westgate.
I'm sure you're right about Hull, Cleethorpes and Pontefract Baghill
reecestrains
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Apparently from what I was told, they were measuring platform and trains on each station on each platform on the line.A 195 running on the Harrogate Line this evening...
Realtime Trains | 5Z30 2017 York to Holbeck Loco Sidings | 03/04/2024
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Didn't realise this was already posted until my original thread was deleted.
Kite159
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I'm pretty sure in the days when Northern ran the Manchester Airport - Liverpool via Warrington Central services there was a very early morning Liverpool - Manchester Airport running nonstop to Piccadilly via Chat Moss which was a 195 as it formed a Warrington Central train
Pacco
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A couple of years ago I queried on here about 195s disappearing up the Hope Valley line from Hazel Grove late at night. Never seen one head up to the Buxton Line. I presume clearance in the Eaves Tunnel is not a given.
themiller
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I’ve heard from two independent sources that a pair of 195/1s operated ecs on 5C95 from Barrow-in-Furness to Preston via Carlisle on 05-04-2024.
There is a photo and further discussion in this thread
That thread is now locked. There is a a recent Les Gilpin video on YouTube of unusual visitors to Carlisle which features the 195s reversing there
Out of Service 195101 has been hauled by Rail-Adventure in Germany and also Romania and Czech Republic.
We are connected to Europe so it is a wider European Network and the OP did not specific UK only. Also the 195 is built to European Interopability standards so Europe is a home network.
Make the 195 a very well travelled DMU.
We are connected to Europe so it is a wider European Network and the OP did not specific UK only. Also the 195 is built to European Interopability standards so Europe is a home network.
Make the 195 a very well travelled DMU.
Grumpy Git
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Are there any plans to get them (back) on the Liverpool - Manchester Oxford Rd (CLC) services and also up to Buxton anytime soon, (the 150's are horrendous and need scrapping ASAP)?