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M60lad

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Out of interest with these fires does this leave Trentbarton short of vehicles? If so where would replacements come from?

Who pays for the damage to the road surface due to these fires I'm guessing the bus company but could be wrong?
 

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Same can be said about the B7's though...
And any other bus...

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Out of interest with these fires does this leave Trentbarton short of vehicles? If so where would replacements come from?

Who pays for the damage to the road surface due to these fires I'm guessing the bus company but could be wrong?
Depending on the cause of the fire insurance would cover it (third party fire / theft)... this does depend on the cause as I said though.

The company pays for damage to road surface / street furniture, though this also can be insurance paid if the fire isn't the fault of the company (depending on if the cost is more than the excess)

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Not sure if it has had any use this week but was certainly used last week for CPC training at Langley Mill.
It was driving (training) around Hucknall on Tuesday

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Nottingham depo won't have many buses left at this rate as all the spare buses will be in use plus the engineering department will be getting a roasting
Think 145 will be a perfect replacement

Like trainman says, numerous vehicles will be displaced in the coming months, so it might be tight for a while but it should keep everyone happy as 669 is MOTd til December so she might live on a little longer!
 
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Out of interest with these fires does this leave Trentbarton short of vehicles? If so where would replacements come from?
No, on any given day Trent Barton have around 40 spare vehicles, today they have 39

And that doesn’t factor in an older Solo/Solar/Versa still in TB livery with Notts & Derby and TM Travel that could come back
 

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No, on any given day Trent Barton have around 40 spare vehicles, today they have 39

And that doesn’t factor in an older Solo/Solar/Versa still in TB livery with Notts & Derby and TM Travel that could come back
I wondered why Notts and Derby were hastily debranding a Versa.. Quick, paint it green.

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And any other bus...

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Depending on the cause of the fire insurance would cover it (third party fire / theft)... this does depend on the cause as I said though.

The company pays for damage to road surface / street furniture, though this also can be insurance paid if the fire isn't the fault of the company (depending on if the cost is more than the excess)

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It was driving (training) around Hucknall on Tuesday

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Think 145 will be a perfect replacement

Like trainman says, numerous vehicles will be displaced in the coming months, so it might be tight for a while but it should keep everyone happy as 669 is MOTd til December so she might live on a little longer!
669 just keeps going on and on.
 

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I wondered why Notts and Derby were hastily debranding a Versa.. Quick, paint it green.

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669 just keeps going on and on.
I believe they are working on getting busses painted. I think someone mentioned the interdecks will be getting painted in the summer holidays when they’re not needed for school contracts and I would only assume versas and solos are to follow unless they get something better that’s displaced.
 

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I believe they are working on getting busses painted. I think someone mentioned the interdecks will be getting painted in the summer holidays when they’re not needed for school contracts and I would only assume versas and solos are to follow unless they get something better that’s displaced.
I recall several Notts and Derby coaches getting plenty of use throughout the summer. Rail replacement etc. If you are a reliable operator, you are never short of work. "Got a problem no-one can help? Who you going to call?". Why Notts and Derby will deliver.
 

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I recall several Notts and Derby coaches getting plenty of use throughout the summer. Rail replacement etc. If you are a reliable operator, you are never short of work. "Got a problem no-one can help? Who you going to call?". Why Notts and Derby will deliver.
I agree that they will still be busy there’s just more flexibility with the vehicles available in school holidays that allow the coaches to be out of service for a week or two to be painted and stickered up
 

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I agree that they will still be busy there’s just more flexibility with the vehicles available in school holidays that allow the coaches to be out of service for a week or two to be painted and stickered up
At least two weeks, provided there is capacity in their chosen painting contractors. .They may have other work from other operators too. Never easy to get them done
 

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At least two weeks, provided there is capacity in their chosen painting contractors. .They may have other work from other operators too. Never easy to get them done
I think there’s 2-3 preferred places for painting now but definitely as you say busy with the contractors and their own services along with getting other busses across the Wellglade fleet done. It’s a shame they’re not as lucky as tm travel are every bus they get is in company colours
 

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I think there’s 2-3 preferred places for painting now but definitely as you say busy with the contractors and their own services along with getting other busses across the Wellglade fleet done. It’s a shame they’re not as lucky as tm travel are every bus they get is in company colours
At least TM Travel 1409 got painted black. Odd now Notts and Derby didn't follow suit.
 

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At least TM Travel 1409 got painted black. Odd now Notts and Derby didn't follow suit.
There is 1405 which is the same style just the red bits are green for ND. Bus hasn’t been seen in a while because it’s being converted to a hybrid or an electric. After 1405 there was 1404 & 1403 they however got placed into the standard new ND colours.

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Must be time for some fleet additions then, in a different colour.
The recent problem they’ve faced is the Sheffield euro 6 zone and it’s not the most profitable company in the group so they’ve had a couple of hand downs mainly solos and snx solars from Trent. They also had some ex Stagecoach London solos so they’re as compliant as possible. It’s been going on for years that they get vehicles but they don’t tend to see the paint shop. Most are the colour of the former route/operator just with older stickers removed and a tm travel one slapped on the side
 

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There is 1405 which is the same style just the red bits are green for ND. Bus hasn’t been seen in a while because it’s being converted to a hybrid or an electric. After 1405 there was 1404 & 1403 they however got placed into the standard new ND colours.

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The recent problem they’ve faced is the Sheffield euro 6 zone and it’s not the most profitable company in the group so they’ve had a couple of hand downs mainly solos and snx solars from Trent. They also had some ex Stagecoach London solos so they’re as compliant as possible. It’s been going on for years that they get vehicles but they don’t tend to see the paint shop. Most are the colour of the former route/operator just with older stickers removed and a tm travel one slapped on the side
I think Scania decker 1172 is still in London red.

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Trentbarton have announced that they will no longer carry e-scooters from 16th May 2025. Always seemed strange allowing them, given it is illegal to use them in a public place. Makes you wonder if the Police have been seizing them at bus stops.
 
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TM E400 SN61 BBU is repainted in the black livery
 

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As far as I'm aware, the 1505 Swift service from Derby to Uttoxeter didn't operate on Saturday afternoon (10th) Is there any way of finding out why, driver shotage, vehicle failure etc.?
 

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As far as I'm aware, the 1505 Swift service from Derby to Uttoxeter didn't operate on Saturday afternoon (10th) Is there any way of finding out why, driver shotage, vehicle failure etc.?
Tracking on bus times shows 733 arrived into Derby and then on the 1505 it tracked around Uttoxeter town. Unless the ticket machine was faulty it looks like it may have gone empty to Uttoxeter for some reason.
 

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Tracking on bus times shows 733 arrived into Derby and then on the 1505 it tracked around Uttoxeter town. Unless the ticket machine was faulty it looks like it may have gone empty to Uttoxeter for some reason.
Probably a fault then fast to Uttoxeter down the A50.
 

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Tracking on bus times shows 733 arrived into Derby and then on the 1505 it tracked around Uttoxeter town. Unless the ticket machine was faulty it looks like it may have gone empty to Uttoxeter for some reason.

Probably a fault then fast to Uttoxeter down the A50.
I imagine that's what happened. I was at Derby bus station just after 3pm and a few passengers were waiting at the Swift stand but no bus.

I thought it was possible to show 'Cancelled' on the departure indicator or at least someone from the Trent office could have come out and told people it wasn't running!
 

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I imagine that's what happened. I was at Derby bus station just after 3pm and a few passengers were waiting at the Swift stand but no bus.

I thought it was possible to show 'Cancelled' on the departure indicator or at least someone from the Trent office could have come out and told people it wasn't running!
I have seen the word "cancelled" appear on the large overhead displays. I imagine nobody came out to inform waiting customers because "nobody told them".
 

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I imagine that's what happened. I was at Derby bus station just after 3pm and a few passengers were waiting at the Swift stand but no bus.

I thought it was possible to show 'Cancelled' on the departure indicator or at least someone from the Trent office could have come out and told people it wasn't running!
Those screens in the bus station dont like staying connected to the wifi in the bus station so even if we cancel the service on our system half the time it dosent go through to the screens!
 

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