Back in the day, I came south from Inverness on the Chieftain which was diverted via Aberdeen. This of course meant that by the time it got to Edinburgh most of that day’s ECML diversions had come off so “all” we got south of Edinburgh was Abbeyhill and Hertford. Had the day’s other work overrun, we would have had Leamside and Sleaford as well (never got Leamside). That is topped by my parents who once endured (mother)/ enjoyed (father) Bristol to Edinburgh via Oxford, Cannock, Manchester, Settle and Cumbernauld. About the only bits of the normal route covered were New Street station and Carlisle to Carstairs.
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Is this the longest Avanti service ever?
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CHobbs
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Going via Northampton on a weekend isn’t unusual, is it?? - not stopping but passing through
I recall doing a trip on an HST in the late 1980s or early 1990s, winter Sunday, from Inverness to Kings Cross which ran via Aberdeen - I think that was the scheduled route for the up service on winter Sunday mornings, with the Highland Main Line closed. To add extra spice, it was then diverted via the joint line between Doncaster and Peterborough. Journey time was about 12 hours
Baring in mind the post I replied to was with regard to LNER……
I’ll be on the earlier leg of that train tomorrow.
Peter Mugridge
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I'm another one who would prefer that to a bus replacement for part of the route - and I'm not a fan of the 390s at all.
Out of curiosity, what's the mileage for this with all those diversions?
Out of curiosity, what's the mileage for this with all those diversions?
The Avanti Manchester diversions have been via Bolton over the weekend, switching to Eccles today (Monday).
The Trent Valley block is on for the whole week giving the West mids 3 trains per hour to Liverpool in some hours. Albeit that the Avanti festers at Brum for up to 20 minutes to run 3 minutes behind the LM service! Oh for a joined-up railway.
The Trent Valley block is on for the whole week giving the West mids 3 trains per hour to Liverpool in some hours. Albeit that the Avanti festers at Brum for up to 20 minutes to run 3 minutes behind the LM service! Oh for a joined-up railway.
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There is only one on a Sunday night.
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RailMiles shows Glasgow Central to London Euston via Stockport, Birmingham New Street, Northampton, and Watford Junction, as 453miles 33chains.
DarloRich
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Exactly: why don't tocs use diversions?
TOc uses diversion: ARGH! To long!!!
There is a block on around Nuneaton until 1st June. Good on Avanti for keeping services moving!
RailWonderer
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I can't sit down for nearly seven hours without my backside hurting and my legs feeling numb, and I'm fairly young. Having to move a bit isn't bad and it breaks up a very long journey - I tend to like changing trains for the sake of it instead of one very long direct service because I like to get up and get something decent to eat and use a toilet with space. I don't think I'm the only one who can't sit down in one spot for so long. Ultimately the loadings on that super long Avanti service will decide if it's worth it or not to run such a long service.
The Planner
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Thats because the Avanti is using the Scotland path which is xx.07 from New St anyway. You arent going to rip up the timetable because its considered too close to the other path. That is still going to happen under GBR.
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They would run it regardless.
Would far rather a long diversion on one direct train than faffing around getting on and off and using a coach part way. I suspect the majority of customers would prefer this, people broadly aren’t keen on connections if they can be avoided.
But you could get off at Preston or Stockport and get another train an hour later if wanting to do so, whilst those preferring direct services would still have the option.
Cannot belive someone encouraging the use of rail replacement services, there are 2 alternative wired routes to be used for diversion soon to be 3. Use of rail replacement service would easily extended journey time by another 60/90 minutes. The lack of space on rail replacement service for prams, luggage, wheelchairs needs to be considered. why run a RRS when a railway line is there, wired and open
So Stockport to Macclesfield passengers don't prevent reservations from being used for Preston and north to London passengers?
Sad Sprinter
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I don’t think he’s saying it shouldn’t run. He is right, it would be awful. Crowded, hot, bratty children for the same travel time from London to New York! That being said, give me a first class table to myself and I probably wouldn’t complain (until we get to Rugby and I lose the will to live)
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London to Aberdeen/Inverness and vice versa via Newcastle and Carlisle are quite routine for a few weekends every year.
The Planner
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This what I love about railways. "We need faster, longer, more trains to everywhere Beeching closed so more people can use them, but only if its the demographics I like travelling"
RailWonderer
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Exactly, there’s no problem with running such a long service, but when the same journey can be done in a much shorter time on a different day, how many people will use this service unless they absolutely have to?
Children have never made me feel afraid whilst travelling; intoxicated adults have.