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The new ScotRail font sems to be a lot smaller than the one on the old SPTrail signs.
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RPM
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As someone who grew up in the era when absolutely everything was painted dull blue I can't begin to agree with all this livery conservatism. We used to cry out for colour and variety; now we have it. The waste of money argument would of course be invalidated if franchises were let for proper lengths of time (20 years or so)...
60163
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Beat me to it. Although I wasn't alive then, and would still love to time-travel back to it, i think lessons could be learnt. EWS and the 'middle' Freightliner (ie not grey and not Powerhaul) liveries are really, really starting to look tired. the Keith Heller 67, DRS 66s and the few DBS Red locos are to me a breath of fresh paint.
mmac
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I don't think it is, may just be the switch from a Helvetica-like font "SPT" to ITC Officina Sans "ScotRail" so it looks smaller.
lookingforit35
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NXEA take the biscuit. I travelled to Southend recently and we stopped at Rayleigh. The platform name sign was mostly blank white, with "Rayleigh" in small letters as this matched the font/style used by NXEA.
EM2
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But they didn't run the risk of beign hit with a very heavy fine for travelling with the wrong operator. 'Cos there was only one!
INTERCITY Swallow with the TOC name in the INTERCITY font at the other end of each coach would be good, but I'm guessing the cost of the constant re-branding pales into insiginificance compared with the costs of ROSCOs and the TOC's profit margins.
Agreed, especially when it comes to ATW with their really awful, vibrant turquoise that they apply to the nameboards, lamp posts and benches. I've seen some old GWR and BR benches with that awful paint slapped on them, wantan vadalisam.
sprinterguy
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The original Great Western livery retained the INTERCITY Swallow carriage branding at one end of the carriage (with a registered trademark "R" symbol added) with "Great Western" branding at the other end for a short while after the franchise was launched, but this was quite quickly done away with (Even quicker than the original GW livery disappeared under First Group "fag packet" vinyls) to be replaced by "Great Western" at both ends of vehicles.
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Station nameboards and other signs should definitely have one standard style of lettering, rather than the myriad different TOC-specific variants we have today. In the PTE areas, lamp-posts, fences, etc could be painted in the colours of the local PTE, who seem to rebrand themselves less frequently than do the TOCs.
TackerUK
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I like all the different branding and liveries of Loco’s its what i like to photograph as im not a spotter. The more the better
T163R
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There could be a National Rail livery, on all NR trains (all TOCs) with branding and small details about the TOC, just like London Buses (but not a plain colour like it will be for the London Buses, please !)
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