kyrano
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NUMPTY doesnt swear like that even he as a valid ticket .......
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'Big man' vs Sam Main incident (final decision: no charges for either)
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Markdvdman
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It is beyond belief.
The chav was a blinding idiot who got what he deserved.
This country of do gooders is absolutely incredible! The big guy did good, and as a man who pays a LOT of money a year to rail well a trifling amount of £2000 in fares - people like that make me sick!
Good on him for doing what he did.
That father is EXACTLY what is wrong with society! My dad would have told me where to go! Ridiculous to theorise the legal imlications.
Let us face facts as rail users - the chav was an **** and got what he deserved END OF!
The chav was a blinding idiot who got what he deserved.
This country of do gooders is absolutely incredible! The big guy did good, and as a man who pays a LOT of money a year to rail well a trifling amount of £2000 in fares - people like that make me sick!
Good on him for doing what he did.
That father is EXACTLY what is wrong with society! My dad would have told me where to go! Ridiculous to theorise the legal imlications.
Let us face facts as rail users - the chav was an **** and got what he deserved END OF!
fairysdad
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Surely his drink to celebrate should come when his results came through rather than the day of the exam? 
(I know, because that's what I intend to do tomorrow... maybe!)
(I know, because that's what I intend to do tomorrow... maybe!)Tomonthetrain
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If I did that then my old man would give me a clip round t'ear!!
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Looking on YouTube, several aye or nay responses with regards to the support of big mans actions:
Aye - Support the big mans helping conductor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr8J8Uv8THg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7nxG-zW3BM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Nays - Against "Big Mans" Helping the conductor:
youtube.com/watch?v=RPNWkkzpjN4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
Looking on YouTube, several aye or nay responses with regards to the support of big mans actions:
Aye - Support the big mans helping conductor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr8J8Uv8THg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7nxG-zW3BM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Nays - Against "Big Mans" Helping the conductor:
youtube.com/watch?v=RPNWkkzpjN4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Same here.
If I was 19, was so drunk I verbally abused a conductor approaching retirement age and swore in front of young kids my old man would be having words with me and telling me I deserved to get chucked off the train.
My old man would of finished what big man started, and made sure I never dreamt of doing it again. Suppose the problem today is due to a lack of discipline by parents! My dad would of given me a good smack if I did anything wrong and it definitely made me not do the same again!
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Chapeltom
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I am 19, that kind of behaviour is disgraceful. If he's had a beer or two and thinks its fine to swear at a conductor then its a joke, I'd be more understanding if he'd had 10, 10 pints can make the best of us a bit disorderly. But most of us can tell the difference between knowing when its appropriate to swear and when its not even when were drunk, with mates in a pub yes, on a train? No. This lad is a disgrace.
I have no sympathy whatsoever, had I done that my Dad would have stopped me drinking and given me a good rollocking. Had I seen a mate do that, I'd have de-friended them, I wouldn't want to associate myself with idiots.
I hope the DM and its readers rip the chav to shreds, what little chance he had of a job post-Uni in this economic climate has been eradicated. I myself constantly remind myself that if I was arrested after a few beers (and I never have been nor even close to been) bye-bye job prospects.
I have no sympathy whatsoever, had I done that my Dad would have stopped me drinking and given me a good rollocking. Had I seen a mate do that, I'd have de-friended them, I wouldn't want to associate myself with idiots.
I hope the DM and its readers rip the chav to shreds, what little chance he had of a job post-Uni in this economic climate has been eradicated. I myself constantly remind myself that if I was arrested after a few beers (and I never have been nor even close to been) bye-bye job prospects.
amcluesent
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I'd love to kick that little scrote into next week. It's a sad day when you can't give a wee ned a hell of a battering, Hoots!
Xenophon PCDGS
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Who was the third person near to the end of the clip who seemed to intervene when the second attempt to re-board was made? Was he a member of the rail staff?
ReverendFozz
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While I generally support the big fellas actions, it is not something I would do myself, I had a scary moment on a bus a few years ago, was talking to a bus driver while the bus was stationary asking about connections when I brought to the drivers attention a drunk and drugged moron trying to chat up 2 girls no older than 14 and freaking out an old lesbian couple in the process, driver asked the guy to leave the bus, he refused, driver threatened to hit his panic button, at which I was going to intervene, the guy knew he was in a no-win situation, but as I approached him, he stood up, took a couple of steps towards me and thrust his hand inside his coat, as if he was making a grab for a knife, I jumped to one side and to protect myself somehow from a kicking or being stabbed...
Luckily the guy did not have a knife or weapon on him and he just walked off the bus, While I thought I was doing the right thing, I ultimately put myself at risk, and now, I dont care what happens, I will do it again.
Back to topic, what the big guy in the video did was with good intentions, but how was anyone to know he did not have a knife or weapon on him
Luckily the guy did not have a knife or weapon on him and he just walked off the bus, While I thought I was doing the right thing, I ultimately put myself at risk, and now, I dont care what happens, I will do it again.
Back to topic, what the big guy in the video did was with good intentions, but how was anyone to know he did not have a knife or weapon on him
anthony263
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I saw this on BBC breakfast this morning and it seems the muppet has complained to the daily mail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...il-ticket-video-Sam-Main-says-HES-victim.html
I still don't feel sorry for him at all.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...il-ticket-video-Sam-Main-says-HES-victim.html
I still don't feel sorry for him at all.
ralphchadkirk
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Especially when mixed with a decent amount of alcohol.......
Certainly, when mine is "playing up" I drop my usual mild manner and shout at people and stomp about. Can come on very suddenly, and the first warning is when I explode.
ralphchadkirk
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Nope. Aggressiveness, temper, rage, personality change, confusion, belligerence and combativeness are all neuroglycopenic manifestations of a hypoglycaemic state.
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I'm saying that alcohol has exacerbated the situation.
Had the lad not been smelling of drink and produced the likes of a medical card as suggested by Diabetes UK then this wouldn't have happened.
To be honest you don't have to be 'big' to do this to someone, I'm nowhere near the same size as the big man build wise but I would have done the same...
1) He didn't pay for a ticket
2) He had no intention of paying
3) He held the train up for 10 minutes, causing disruption to the service and annoying a lot of paying passengers
4) He refused to get off when he was told to do so
5) He decided to be cheeky to the conductor about it
He deserved to be thrown off.
1) He didn't pay for a ticket
2) He had no intention of paying
3) He held the train up for 10 minutes, causing disruption to the service and annoying a lot of paying passengers
4) He refused to get off when he was told to do so
5) He decided to be cheeky to the conductor about it
He deserved to be thrown off.
Platform 1
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I hope this does not become the next form of benefit. Free train travel for people with diabetes. We would all be trying to get it wouldn't we!?
It makes no difference if he has diabetes - that may affect his reaction but the end result should be the same.
He was asked to leave the train; if he'd done as he was told he would have ended up in the same place but perhaps being more comfortable and less embarrassed. (Though clearly he wasn't enough, having written to the media about it.)
The only people that will fully take his side are the sort of people not worth having in an argument (you end up thinking about what they should have said), let alone a country.
I suppose for the guard it was like the things we used to discuss at primary school; "If you found out the world would end tomorrow, what would you do?".
He's probaby always wanted to have someone thrown out of a train. People like that must be so frustrating.
It makes no difference if he has diabetes - that may affect his reaction but the end result should be the same.
He was asked to leave the train; if he'd done as he was told he would have ended up in the same place but perhaps being more comfortable and less embarrassed. (Though clearly he wasn't enough, having written to the media about it.)
The only people that will fully take his side are the sort of people not worth having in an argument (you end up thinking about what they should have said), let alone a country.
I suppose for the guard it was like the things we used to discuss at primary school; "If you found out the world would end tomorrow, what would you do?".
He's probaby always wanted to have someone thrown out of a train. People like that must be so frustrating.
I have written this, not to support the man, but to point out that I do not have all the evidence, and so cannot say whether or not he "deserved to be thrown off". We have many tales on here of guards being challenged and turning stroppy. Can anyone here put their hand on their heart and say that, if a guard tried to throw them off a train for which they held a valid ticket, they would meekly get off without arguing?
Lampshade
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Just been on BBC News from the usual BBC anti-rail point of view :roll:
ayrshire_voyager
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Piffle, very similar thing happened to Richard Bacon on Virgin a few weeks ago, he paid the ticket, as I did when I lost a portion of it and did not behave in this manner.
The fact he is a student is irrelevant, he is a foul mouthed arrogant disrespectful youth that unfortunately is becoming the norm. If my folks had witnessed me behaving like that, they would have belted me or grounded me.
He was on BBC Radio Scotland today, foaming at the mouth shouting and screaming his "innocence" and showing very little remorse.
It would be interesting to get views of other passengers on the train, as I believe the diatribe between the conductor and the poor victim had been going on for 10 minutes prior to that youtube clip being recorded.
Justice for the Big Man
I must take issue with that.
If someone with diabetes is having a "hypo", then the chances are they can't even tell you their own name, let alone present their ticket then subsequently leave the train.
I'm not saying that was the case here, of course.
Some people will go to any lengths to pursue an agenda.
175001
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16173835
Good comments from the recorder.....anybody who swears at me whilst doing my job, loses the battle.
Good comments from the recorder.....anybody who swears at me whilst doing my job, loses the battle.
His father has told the press that he was sold two identical singles instead of being given a return and didn't notice.
Sounds like nonsense to me.
So this happened under a week ago and there are now no signs of the significant facial injury he was showing off in photos to the Daily Mail. Those photos published by the Daily Mail could easily have been from another incident.
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