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Would it have worked doing it the other way around, having: xx05 with similar stopping pattern as now - i.e. all stations west of Brockenhurst xx35 fast to Southampton, then front portion doing current pattern of Brockenhurst, Bournemouth, Poole and some stations to Weymouth xx35 rear portion...

Remember that VTEC/LNER and VT/Avanti are far simpler franchises to run than SWR. Those operate entirely LDHS services, only a few hundred a day each; SWR on the other hand operates over 1000 trains each day, almost all used by commuters. Also, SWR has a challenging mix of all-station commuter...

Stagecoach had 21 years of experience running SWT, and kept the unions much happier than SWR. Of course the overbidding has everything to do with the strikes - they wouldn't have taken action had SWR not ordered 750 new (DOO) carriages as part of their bid.

so what will southern get in exchange for giving 25 377/1s to SE?

Does anyone know what will be working : 1W19 0835 Waterloo to Weymouth tomorrow (14/5)

the lass 700s will have more standing room, giving more space. also, additional 8-/12-car thameslink services will run as ECML stopping trains from CBG/PBO to destinations in the south, stopping at st pancras, giving extra capacity.

that makes sense, as I belive TL willhave services to peterbrough/cambridge from st pancras/the south via new canal tunnels to the ECML. if these are the stopping services so that just leaves 365s and 377s to do the fast/semi-fast trains to peterbrough/cambridge/kings lynn --- old post above...

hi all, I have been looking at future rolling stock allocations and noticed that thameslink class 377s have been rather oversubscribed. there are 9 class 377/2s and 23 377/5s with thameslink - 23 go to great northern to replace 21x365s, 12x317s and 13x321s - 25 go to southeastern...

Abellio make the decision on what their new fleet is going to be, but ORR tell them what cascaded fleet they're going to get.

This could mean then that the 185s displaced from the TPE services could go to XC to do Cardiff Nottingham services --- old post above --- --- new post below --- With what operator???? --- old post above --- --- new post below --- For what services? 27 are going to Scotrail, but as...

possiably, as angel trains own both the 175s and the 180s, but there are some differences between the untis, for example 175s have 450hp per engine and 180s have 750hp this could be rectified by an engine swap but then it starts to get VERY VERY EXPENSIVE. the best scenario in my opinion...

possiably, but XC have 11x2car and 18x3car 170s and they don't often work in multiple, so 14 180s (or 5 after grand central have their share) won't be enough sets to replace them. good idea though, as XC is notoriously crowded!

do they have the open access guaranteed? I thought the Edinburgh proposal was rejected by the DfT?

i see, so if the 180s would be used for extra capacity, rather than replacing the WAG train, then there would be no sprinter cascades or extra chiltern sets.

dunno why, but tht means there are 5 surplus to go somewhere --- old post above --- --- new post below --- so if they have 5x180, they could parhaps make all services on the 2 hourly cardiff-holyhead service? then, sister company chiltern could have an extra 2 6-car sets. the freed 175s (and...

as said above, grand central will have the GWR 180s after the IEP plan, what for the 4 HT sets?

replacement stock is 6 156s from northern on the manchester-blackpool/barrow route, freeing 185s to do the hull/clethorpes route

I'm saying that turbostars could be a pacer replacement

scotrail will have a lot of turbostarts after they get their 5-car ex-GWR HSTs and glasgow-edinburgh electrification. also, what about having 67s free from chiltern hauling mk4s dispersed from ECML?

pacers will have to be scrapped or undergo significant refurbishment under the disability discrimination act 2019. noethern should take the opertunity to scrap all pacers for good!