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Moderator note: Split from https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/reading-to-brighton-via-london.286484/ To avoid starting a new thread, I am looking up travel from Tulse Hill to Hove. A single to Brighton would be £25.80 A single to Hove is £28.20 This seems like an odd difference bearing in...

Do we know what the extra 2 lines at the western side achieve in terms of extra paths etc? I would love to know how many minutes of delay happens due to problems on the western approaches compared to the eastern. I have spent many hours of my life waiting for westbound trains at Leeds and the...

I just think it all gets a bit odd at Leeds if you have another 2 tracks on the western approach but nothing is done on the Eastern side. I understand that a 2 track railway notionally can pump a lot of trains through it, but that throws up 2 questions for me. Why do you need 2 more at the...

One question I have always had on this. Has capacity always been limited to 2 tracks leaving Leeds to the East or were there additional tracks leading East from now closed stations? It seems like it has been a significant bottleneck since the railway began? Over in Manchester there is the now...

Thank you 74A! That will do - good enough!

Hi, Wonder if anybody can help with a route I am struggling to confirm as valid. Clapham Junction to Bath Spa - out via Reading. Back via Frome. (On the return on Sunday I am actually starting from Frome as I am staying with a friend there who will pick me up from Bath).

Wish there was consistency on e-ticketing. Many TOCs advertise the ease of buying online, which gets you in the habit, then you find you are stuffed for time or worse have got on a train thinking you had an ticket then seeing the dreaded code.

Yes, very odd not to have legal professionals and/or the Law Commission involved. Perhaps I will encourage my friend to complain to the ORR.

To be deleted 1736359511 Hmm I not sure on that. However, if trying to show that then the self incrimination problem with WMT’s approach feels even more relevant. If they are intending to link events to show that a standard for intent has been met, that should be made really clear so that the...

I think it is random. WMT is not suggesting is has evidence of wrong doing for behaviour on any other date. It is a well understood principle that English law treats individual offences as just that. Even multiple similar offences are individual counts. I think the multiple offence point then...

Exactly, which is why the criminal threshold for fraud has clearly not been reached in this sort of case. I do wonder if there is a legal abuse of process argument in WMT’s approach. I wouldn’t be surprised if a judge told WMT at trial: - the lack of clarity as to what you are accusing the...

That is what I am thinking. If that is the case you can’t go around throwing out accusations of criminal fraud with zero evidence. On that basis you could accuse everybody who has bought a ticket with a railcard discount but that you don’t have a record of a railcard for of fraud. It would be...

Thanks furlong. Glad I am not going mad! The railway wants to watch itself lest it becomes the equivalent of the private car park industry. With the state of that letter and WMT’s really weird pointless cloak and dagger fishing expedition for data it should already have - it arguably already...

I don’t mind that approach for a serial offender. Highly likely that a persistent offender has fleeced the railway for more than that over time. I do think it is disproportionate for a first time incident. However, the real question is what the courts think. If a civil court thinks that is the...

It is still being prioritised over others, unless they have cleared their backlog of all serious cases, which I find impossible to believe if fare evasion is rife, which I am sure it is.

Okay well start with my friend insists she hasn’t made any other trips without a valid railcard. Knowing her, I suspect that is true, so when you say evidence do you mean of trips before that date? Highly unlikely from my recollection because she had a new born and wasn’t travelling by train...

Thanks furlong. Luckily for her, her friend is a solicitor! That is why, the more I think about it, for many of the reasons you have stated, I really do not think this letter should have been sent. The approach of WMT, if this is there standard approach, has more holes in it than a sieve. I am...

I don’t mind a message of zero tolerance but in reality there should be sensible discretion sitting behind that. Okay, the resource might need retraining to do other things, but is can also prioritise what is goes after. I have to say I would also prioritise other railcards. You are entitled to...

Thanks for the insight and advice. My friend is also grateful. I personally think threatening this sort of action for an expired railcard is over the top in any case. To have an expired railcard, you bought a railcard. That is very different to buying a ticket with a railcard discount having...

She renewed the railcard on her next trip which was shortly afterwards and hasn’t made any trips in the last 6 months with an expired railcard.