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I guess what they give with one ticket, they take away with the other! I'll stick with the London Terminals card as that appears to offer more "value" than the other one, for my purposes.

I am investigating whether to buy an annual season ticket/gold card for when I return to the office three days a week, in March. Pre pandemic, I used to buy a season ticket from my station, Brockley, to London Terminals. I checked the price of this on Southern's website and an annual card is...

Something has definitely worsened with the southern trains approach to the station. Trains at any time of day crawl and stop all the way from New Cross Gate. A real nuisance as journey times are longer after the rebuild. Plus there isn’t any 4G mobile signal anywhere near or in the station. The...

Thanks. It's a bit incredible that passengers would be expected to know all this just to get another route to their destination, especially if a train is cancelled. There is actually a slight disadvantage to make passengers take the shortest route as this would overload those services when in...

Hmm - I can't see why I am permitted to use the Overground only to Denmark Hill, and then be required to get a SouthEastern train to Victoria. Why can't I stay on the Overground to Clapham Junction and get a Southern train to Victoria?

Thanks but I am none the wiser here. LO is a national rail service but so? In the national rail journey planner, I don't see any examples of a permitted route changing at Penge like you have suggested. Plus you mentioned changing at Surrey Quays and Denmark Hill - but how do I get there on a...

I have an annual gold card from Brockley to London Terminals issued by Southern. Can I use it to go to Victoria by travelling Brockley - Surrey Quays - Clapham Junction [all on the Overground] and then get a Southern train from Clapham Junction to Victoria? Quite often the London Bridge to...

Thanks. I would expect to be purchasing a Southern railway season ticket - not sure if this is true - but there is also a Southern version of the ticket acceptance map here: http://www.thameslinkprogramme.co.uk/ticket-acceptance

I have a similar issue as I need to buy an annual season ticket from Brockley to St Pancras Intl. An annual ticket is £728 but how am I supposed to actually travel between the two stations if I can purchase a national rail season ticket which does not permit me to use the Underground (i.e. a...

What if you have a London Terminals rail [gold] card and you want to hop on the LO service? Say between New Cross Gate and West Croydon? I always assumed you could use either National Rail trains (Southern) or LO. The LO onboard announcements state you must have a valid ticket to use their...

Thanks. It is still not clear to me what "Any permitted" means, if this isn't stipulated anywhere. I can't find what this means in the conditions of carriage and it would undoubtedly vary. This is open to interpretation if you ask me. Would I be able to use the London Overground from Brockley...

I have a Southern annual gold card which is for Brockley to London Terminals. The card also states that “Route/also available at ANY PERMITTED”. Brockley is in zone 2, and London Terminals (i.e.e London Bridge and Victoria) are zone 1. However, the Southern ‘metro’ service between London Bridge...

Should you ever wish to, you would also be permitted to go from Forest Hill to Waterloo East, exit at the ticket gates, go down to Waterloo's concourse, and go onto a train to Vauxhall, without breaking any rules. You can go to these stations because they are considered London Terminals. You can...