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    Discussion on Burden of Proof in Magistrates Court

    Moderator Note - Split from https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/merseyrail-bylaw-section-18-2-advice-needed.250744/ The problem may be the need for a defendant to prove the exception on the balance of probabilities. To my mind, the overall need for the prosecution to prove the case beyond...
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    What could be a train company's justification, when offering a settlement, for charging full anytime fares with no discount for tickets already held?

    The question above arose in a specific thread: a post is quoted below. The Conditions of Travel appear to say that a company can either charge the full anytime fare or report for prosecution, with no mention of a power to do both: If including the full fare is not based on 9.2.1, what is its...
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    Selling Tickets Onboard and Penalty Fare Warnings

    [Edit: This thread was split from https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/penalty-fare-help-needed-please.245843/page-2#post-6143021 The text in this post is from that thread:] I think there is a "compelling reason" - which is a valid ground - for the appeal body to allow the appeal: the...
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    Should not having a railcard to which you're entitled be treated less seriously?

    If someone has committed a ticketing offence, a company might reasonably suspect them of having done it on other occasions, and/or that they will do it again, perhaps many times. The company might take this into account when threatening or undertaking prosecution. And if the passenger...
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    Is a penalty fare void if there was no request to produce a valid ticket?

    Suppose you board a train at a Penalty Fare station. You tell an authorised Penalty Fare collector that you haven't got a valid ticket for the journey. That is the first communication between you. The collector wants to charge a penalty fare in accordance to the regulations, but knows there...
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    WMT Passengers' Charter encouraging people to board without tickets?

    Why would it be unreasonable for someone to think, on the basis of the West Midlands Trains Passengers' Charter - or the Charter combined with the National Rail Conditions of Travel - that they are allowed to board without a ticket after three or five minutes in a queue...
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    RDG, Press Association, ITV mislead that people charged penalty fares are "fare dodging"

    Emails to Press Association and ITV, 21 August 2019 "Imagine you tell a work colleague you've had a refund, and they had seen the ITV story." ....................................... [to Press Association] Hello - please correct this story...
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    Idea: Separating advice from discussion

    To cater for issues specific to people's circumstances, could one option be a separate discussion thread, including tentative ideas or technical issues, for each advice thread that needs it?
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    Conditions of Travel: versions

    National Rail produced an August 2018 version of the Conditions of Travel, but now says the current version is from March 2018. Is there a significant difference, and what if any legal issues could result? March: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/46427.aspx...
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    Wrongly-named tickets

    There's an anytime ticket that's called off-peak: http://www.brfares.com/#faredetail?orig=BON&dest=BPN&rte=317&tkt=SVR https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/bolton-to-blackpool-north-break-of-journey.181826/#post-3982465 Could people give other examples of tickets that are not what they are...
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    Procedure if ticket office doesn't have correct ticket stock

    Today at a London Overground station I asked to renew my Gold Card season ticket, which is for a route nowhere near London. The clerk got out a blank Travelcard, and I pointed this out. He said "it's the same thing", and that he didn't have any of the normal type. I preferred not to risk...
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    How much time and other resources do disputes cost people?

    Perhaps it would sometimes be useful for people involved in disputes to say how much time they are spending on them - or report other aspects which can be quantified. The results might be striking, individually or together. Maybe it could help in arguments for compensation. There's irony if...
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    Integrated train/bus tickets

    I'd be interested if anyone has an old RailLinks Manual, mentioned by Journey Solutions below, or any lists or examples of these kinds of tickets. Many thanks. Their website says, http://www.journeysolutions.com/tickets So I asked if they had details. I had these replies from Jonathan...

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