Search results

The best price/distance ratio is to sneak into a staffed station somehow, find a guard and tell them you do not intend to pay and ask to be issued a penalty fare instead. Whilst not technically an advertised train fare, it is the worst value: £80 to travel 0 miles.

Looking at my database (which includes TFL contactless), £1.00 is definitely the cheapest adult non-zero train fare. There are quite a few off-peak tickets for £1.00. The only anytime/peak fare that exists for £1.00 is BEVERLEY <-> COTTINGHAM with the restriction of HULL TRAINS ONLY...

There is a cheaper way to do the commute but you won't like it. As usual around London, the most expensive part is the section of track that crosses the greater London boundary. The west-most TFL bus 81 starts at Slough and goes to Hounslow. If you make a quick connection to the H91 bus, it...

Hi all, The half-hourly trains I rely on often run reduced services on weekends. On such days, the trains that do run can be very crowded. I seem to recall being told that if it is physically impossible to board, this counts as a delay and can be compensated under delay repay in the same way...

Thanks both! I am not including any driving or non-train travel in my example. What you've all said makes sense :) The more I think about it, splitting the return ticket in two (C->A, then E->C) and using them in that order is unlikely to work as the barriers at A would eat the ticket. As...

Hi, Occasionally I have need to visit multiple locations along the same train line. I know with standard tickets, such as SDS, it is permitted to stop short and exit early. Firstly, I hope someone could clarify if it is acceptable to resume a journey after stopping short. Suppose I live at...

They weren't the same for the journeys I was taking. For example, travelling one-way on the weekend to Clapham Junction whilst avoiding zone 1 has changed like so: Welwyn GC: £11.00 -> £6.20 Hatfield: £10.20 -> £6.20 Welham G: £9.00 -> £4.70 St Albans: £13.70 -> £5.80 Certainly in this case...

The fares are now available on the single fare finder. No real surprises, but I am a little disappointed that Hatfield is in the same zone as WGC. Fares from most stations in London are cheaper to St Albans City than Hatfield. This is not the case for paper tickets...

It's good news for me, as some of the fares I was interested in are now the same price as from Potters Bar. I have updated http://faremap.ml to reflect the changes. The information on the readers are clear, but I fear over a decade of muscle memory and association of the yellow logo with...

When I visited Brookmans Park, I didn't even see posters saying that Oyster was not accepted, despite the yellow branding. I would not hold my breath for a poster on the pros and cons of using contactless. :)

Actually the spreadsheet I produced compares the cheapest NR fare of any kind with the cheapest Oyster one, so it would have included super off peak singles. I think everyone has accepted that the new fares are not going to reduce prices for people wanting to return on the same day or break...

Sorry if this should probably go in an existing thread, but I didn't want to hijack any discussions. I looked into how this affects the market for someone who travels from this area to London during weekday off-peak, returns on a different day and is happy to avoid zone 1 if the journey is...

In any event, I'm happy because I expect this extension will make occasional single off-peak journies cheaper. Some examples from Hertford North: Gatwick is £11.40 instead of £15.60 Sutton is £5.90 instead of £10.70 Oxford Circus is £8.30 instead of £14.50 Heathrow T123 is £7.30 avoiding zone 1...

I went to Brookman's Park yesterday and found this installed and ready to be used. There was another Oyster pedestal that had a '90' sticker on it (I am sure they are not offically called pedestals). Both say 'Validate card for entry or exit', but I didn't try using it as there were no trains. I...

I can't promise it will be ready on day 1, but I plan on updating http://faremap.ml to show the new tfl fares.

Thanks for the very interesting discussion, everyone. Clearly there isn't consensus on whether the strategy is morally acceptable. I am quite surprised about this given other methods of creative money-saving are discussed on this board, many of which TOCs wouldn't like publicised. One thing that...

I cannot remember the exact example you showed me before but I think I recall it involved a journey from St Albans Abbey to St Albans City and specifying a Via point. This might be a better example: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/wymondham-to-lowestoft-via-ipswich.175877/ There is nothing...

I guess my comment was that claiming compensation for a service that was not as promised is not controversial, but rather enshrined in law. Whereas, I reckon a lot of ordinary people would feel uneasy buying an unconventional ticket known only to fare experts in order to save money. When I say...

Moderator note: split from Delay Repay - Intentionally Catching Late Trains Much of this forum is dedicated to paying less for train travel by making use of the train fare system in creative or unexpected ways. Is it immoral to split ticket or exploit loopholes in booking engines or easements?

Much of this forum is dedicated to paying less for train travel by making use of the train fare system in creative or unexpected ways. Is it immoral to split ticket or exploit loopholes in booking engines or easements?