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That's a very good answer cos' that's the most likely route now, going on worst groups history with trains!!

Hi.... Has any body seen or know if 444045 has been released yet from the paint shop

Thankyou for that update. After a while it's easy to loose track (excuse the pun)

How many have been don now as I seem to have lost count

If the 458's are not used, well at least they will look smart going to Newport. Anyway First group will have scored a hattrick then, firstly there was the 442's, then came the 769's , and now the 458's. Well done First group!!!!!

Can anyone give any info on how many 458's have been done now and what units the are please

I find it amazing that when NSE were looking at the renewal of stock for the WoE line, it was considering electrifying the route then to just Salisbury or the whole way to Exeter, with 3rd rail to Salisbury then overhead to Exeter, but the history goes that the regional 158's became available...

That would be good too, seeing that the class 379's are available, surely they could be done to work on both overhead and third rail giving the WofE line a train that WOULD be up to todays standard.

With the 158's/159's now 30 y/o, why don't the DfT/SWR just get on and 3rd rail, electrify from Worting jcn to Salisbury and the infill part to Redbridge-Southampton, and the piece from Romsey to Eastleigh, then they could run Bi-mode trains to/from Exeter on either diesel or battery power, from...

I totally agree with this statement. As a former bus driver we were always told in the training school, that a comfortable driver was a SAFE driver and the same should apply for train drivers and they have far more lives, and going at a lot faster speeds than most road vehicles are permitted. I...

This refurb is sounding like the class 442 and class 769 story. This is becoming a bad habit with first group!!!

I agree de ja vue class 442/769

good to see it returning south, so now when is 458407 coming down, then Bournemouth depot can start on testing them coupled together

Hey First grp strikes again... firstly it was the 442's not req'd and NOW the 769's.... whats next, the 800's

In reply to this thread, I would like to see the BR blue/grey livery brought back with just an endorsement on the side of the company that is operating the trains

If Stagecoach are "cheapskates" then what is First group. When Stagecoach had SWT at least the 444's had a buffet area or a trolley service, AND in 1st class it was 2+1 seating, not the cramped 2+2 that we've got now. The only good thing the desiro refurb has done is putting the 1st class on...

thanks for that goldfish. I just assumed that Bournemouth were doing them.

going on at the pace the 444's and 450's are being repainted the franchise/contract will be finished before they get the 458's even started

You put in your text that SWR don't care any more, the question is have they ever cared about SWR. The way that they wasted all the money on the 442's, and then scrapping them, they could have had the whole 444 and 450 fleet repainted.

I feel that the 442's are a victim of their own success. Back in May 1988, does anyone remember that two units, 2401 & 2403 set the world speed record for 3rd rail traction, achieving 107 mph, and covering the journey from Waterloo to Weymouth in 1hr 59 mins, and how many times did Bournemouth...