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I'm not sure why people are taking that at face value, but I don't frequent this part of the forum that often, this narrative seems to be a thing people are into? It seems more plausible to me that neither the stop at Doncaster or the BTP at Kings Cross were primarily to deal with the OP, if...

Well it is stupid having the fake economy of these companies (one private, one state) competing against each other, wanting the benefits of capitalism but not the downsides.

The only way this makes any sense to me, if your account is accurate, is if the train was stopped at Doncaster coincidentally to deal with someone else, who they were then looking for again at Kings Cross. I'm surprised they'd have managed to recognise you, as you'd presumably have been coming...

I think the likes of Peter 'get the hell out of my industry' Wilkinson, whether intentionally or not, lumbered the Guard & OBS grade with a dead man walking culture. But also the cutting of supporting (none Guard) revenue protection efforts and a lack of consequences for persist offenders and...

Do you not reckon they could have swam it?

It'd certainly be interesting to have a clearer view of the full events. But it's certainly not clear cut. The little video we've seen seems to suggest there's clearly more to the story. If you were to being assaulted by a teenager and I intervened as someone never having been trained in...

I've never really understood the opinion that someone being detained/arrested should be limited to a one on one encounter, like it's some kind of fair fight stipulation. It's usually far easier and safer for both sides if more than one person is involved in the restraint. Any situation in which...

He might need rousing again.

Just don't turn up at your local station in it come 2023, you'll look more 'GBR' than the staff who'll likely be wearing something like this: :E

I think RDG are clapping down on Priv misuse, particularly going by the other thread on here, but I don't think that carries over to ticket checking on the ground. Personally, when I was doing tickets, I'd see the PT card and move on. As time goes by though less people are and/or are being...

They should, but the flood gates are open now. It's got to the point where people on the ground don't even know whether random 'ticket' formats on apps or paper are actually tickets or not, let alone whether the journey details shown on them are valid...

The vast majority of LM stations in the West Midlands have ticket purchasing facilities, be it Booking Office, TVM or Permit to Travel machine. As has been said it's a Penalty Fare area. On the Cross City line in particular it's normal for people to come to the back cab to buy a ticket, normally...

You'd think a loyal customer of a revenue protection department would receive better treatment, wouldn't ya... :roll: Does the OP still have the ticket that they subsequently found...?

There is a TVM on the Birmingham platform, it's in the shelter. It's one of the newer card only ones though.

I don't visit this part of the forum much so haven't followed any previous discussion, but I thought I'd post my understanding. The Byelaws don't carry any right of detention, only removal from the railway using reasonable force, so what the Transport Act 2000 says about the Byelaws is...

Rail staff reports suspected criminal activity to BTP, BTP investigate. Happens all the time. You can't really take much from that poorly written piece as there's so little detail. I imagine the main point here is the conduct of the RPI regarding PACE and attitude rather than the RPI reporting...

To be fair, if the OP has done what they've said and 'handed themselves in', I wouldn't hold that further, smaller lie against them. :p

Got to say that I'm amused by how it was recommended to the OP that he should contact his MP and BTP about the conduct of the G4S guy, ignoring that the OP seemingly admitted in his opening post that he committed Common Assault against the authorised person because he didn't believe they'd...

It may not be common knowledge because many (most?) TOCs don't do this... My TOC only employs its RPIs directly, there'd be a pretty big stink with the union if they started using agencies.

Personally I'd write to them explaining what you've told us here and hope for an out of court settlement.