08s on the mainline

[Defiance149]

I think that you'll find that the Knottingley "pilot" is usually an 09, a bit speedier than an 08.

Knottingley pilot is currently 08703, just taken over the duty after being worked by a 66 since May.

 

[Bakers1970]

Most 08's / 09's that are likely to go onto main running lines are fitted with safety systems such as TPWS / GSM-R as fitted on other trains. Without this equipment they are generally not allowed away from depot / yard confines.

May be a naive question.... But what exactly does a 08 shunter require to gain mainline running permission? Is there preset guidelines which stipulates what is required? Thanks in advance..

 

[Controller1701]

Back in the good old days of proper traction there used to be a Tonbridge West Yard - Ashford - Chart Leacon - Tonbridge move to get the Tonbridge West Yard pilot loco's fuelled up, although this would probably be a Class 09.

 

[lincolnshire]

Back in the days of when Hull and Goole docks had a pilot, they used to run back to Doncaster Carr Loco for swapping / maintainance another mailine move, usually late at night I belive.

 

[12CSVT]

In 1994 a railtour did most of the Gunnislake branch with top & tail 08s.
Probably wouldn't be allowed these days.
http://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/90s/941023pt.htm

 

[6Gman]

Class 08 haulage! Rare and difficult.

There used to be a few booked moves I believe such as marshalling portions at Preston.

And occasional rescues.

The only one I can claim was on a Class 304 from Manchester which expired within sight of Crewe. And an 08 came out to rescue us!

 

[D6975]

Class 08 haulage! Rare and difficult.

There used to be a few booked moves I believe such as marshalling portions at Preston.

There were several:
The Carlisle sleeper shunt onto the back of another Southbound sleeper
The Crewe shunt of the splitter (Manchester/Liverpool Sleeper)
Sheffield - Shunting of Newcastle portion onto Leeds/Bradford portion or vice versa.
Plymouth - shunting Plymouth portion of the Night Riviera.

These were all official passenger carrying moves. There were others that were not, but could sometimes be done.

 

[theblackwatch]

There were several:
The Carlisle sleeper shunt onto the back of another Southbound sleeper
The Crewe shunt of the splitter (Manchester/Liverpool Sleeper)
Sheffield - Shunting of Newcastle portion onto Leeds/Bradford portion or vice versa.
Plymouth - shunting Plymouth portion of the Night Riviera.

These were all official passenger carrying moves. There were others that were not, but could sometimes be done.

The 'Night Riviera' was the last regular Class 08 move - it ceased around 2006/2007 if my memory serves me right.

 

[6Gman]

There were several:
The Carlisle sleeper shunt onto the back of another Southbound sleeper
The Crewe shunt of the splitter (Manchester/Liverpool Sleeper)
Sheffield - Shunting of Newcastle portion onto Leeds/Bradford portion or vice versa.
Plymouth - shunting Plymouth portion of the Night Riviera.

These were all official passenger carrying moves. There were others that were not, but could sometimes be done.

At one time there was an Exeter sleeper detached/attached - was that an 08 move?

 

[12CSVT]

The only one I can claim was on a Class 304 from Manchester which expired within sight of Crewe. And an 08 came out to rescue us!

In October 1993, towards the end of a day spent bashing 37s on North Wales Coast services, I was on a Birmingham bound train hauled by 37429 which failed near Bushbury Junction (1.5 miles north of Wolverhampton). The rescue loco was 08448 which brought the train into Wolverhampton, where the train was terminated. At the time it wasn't quite how I intended the day to end, however in hindsight it turned out to be a very lucky haulage, as the 08 was withdrawn two months later. (Being based at Ayr for many years before a short spell at Derby, then Bescot I would imagine the scope for passenger work for this 08 would have been very limited).

 

[Kneedown]

We always had to fetch the 08 in Burton MGR sidings back to Toton every Christmas Eve.
Was a long, long day, most of which was spent at Clay Mills waiting for a path to Stenson!