2025 Models

[Sun Chariot]

Do any of you have a Hornby Railroad Plus class 20? If you do, what's your view?
I thought it was merely the old Lima tooling; but it has wire handrails and it seems to be upgraded tooling.
2025 sees this Loram Rail example selling for a tidy price.

R30318 RailRoad Plus Loram Rail, Class 20, Bo-Bo, 20189 - Era 11

R30318, RailRoad Plus Loram Rail, Class 20, Bo-Bo, 20189 - Era 11, Hornby, Railroad, 1:76 Scale 00 Gauge, OO

uk.hornby.com

 

[Ted633]

Interesting Hornby are doing a Railroad Class 58....

Interesting too that they are doing a re-run of the VEP, one in early NSE and another all-blue one. Hope they get the motor in the right place. Not convinced Hornby will correct the cab windows ... Looks like the blue one is from the early "Bournemouth" units 7701 - 7720. No surprise there are no external lifting lugs. Now if Accurascale and Bachmann can add chains...

Edit: I hope they correct the colour of the front-end gangway - looks black in the images. Did any early VEP run like this?

These re-runs will be based upon the retooled versions that came out last year, so the motor bogie will certainly be in the brake area. If the windows are wrong on that version then I'd expect that to still be the case.
As these are only renders, they can be incorrect anyway. The renders of the aforementioned VEP's from last year showed a large Lima motor in the passenger compartment, but this was always known to be incorrect.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

@Sun Chariot That looks quite decent actually. And I still have the old Lima model

These re-runs will be based upon the retooled versions that came out last year, so the motor bogie will certainly be in the brake area. If the windows are wrong on that version then I'd expect that to still be the case.
As these are only renders, they can be incorrect anyway. The renders of the aforementioned VEP's from last year showed a large Lima motor in the passenger compartment, but this was always known to be incorrect.

I'm surprised Hornby haven't done a retooled blue/grey version of the 4VEP. Curtains would be lovely too. Clearly this can be done...

Given the preponderance of the other major manufacturers in the market now, I'm not surprised Hornby are concentrating on the younger would-be hobbyists with their Railroad range. I might actually be tempted to buy a '58

 

[Sun Chariot]

@Sun Chariot That looks quite decent actually. And I still have the old Lima model

In one of the loft's railway boxes, I also have a Lima 20 (blue), plus half a dozen Lima 47s (blue / large logo / GWR150 / IC / RF grey) which, in the mid-1980s, I thought were quite decent models for their time.

 

[trainswitheddy]

Y'know, funnily enough I was looking at the Dapol GBRf MJAs lastnight and thinking "I wish someone would do a cheaper version of these..."

 

[GatwickDepress]

Do any of you have a Hornby Railroad Plus class 20? If you do, what's your view?
I thought it was merely the old Lima tooling; but it has wire handrails and it seems to be upgraded tooling.
2025 sees this Loram Rail example selling for a tidy price.

R30318 RailRoad Plus Loram Rail, Class 20, Bo-Bo, 20189 - Era 11

R30318, RailRoad Plus Loram Rail, Class 20, Bo-Bo, 20189 - Era 11, Hornby, Railroad, 1:76 Scale 00 Gauge, OO

uk.hornby.com

Fairly certain the old Lima tooling was brought back in 2008 for a run and had some quality of life upgrades done then, like replacing the pancake motor with a 2-pole. Someone will know more than I do.

RailRoad Plus seems to be a decent range for the price. Amazing what a few high quality decals and etched plates can do for an old tooling.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

In one of the loft's railway boxes, I also have a Lima 20 (blue), plus half a dozen Lima 47s (blue / large logo / GWR150 / RF grey) which, in the mid-1980s, I thought were decent models for their time.

Yes I have 20.222 (blue) and I think a couple of Lima or old Hornby Class 47s (maybe Hornby but Lima tooling?)

Fairly certain the old Lima tooling was brought back in 2008 for a run and had some quality of life upgrades done then, like replacing the pancake motor with a 2-pole. Someone will know more than I do.

RailRoad Plus seems to be a decent range for the price. Amazing what a few high quality decals and etched plates can do for an old tooling.

What's the difference between Railroad and RailRoad Plus?

 

[Iskra]

Yes I have 20.222 (blue) and I think a couple of Lima or old Hornby Class 47s (maybe Hornby but Lima tooling?)


What's the difference between Railroad and RailRoad Plus?

Railroad plus is supposed to have enhanced livery application and a simple DCC sound feature I believe.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Railroad plus is supposed to have enhanced livery application and a simple DCC sound feature I believe.

Fair enough. Better not make them "too good" then as nobody will pay for the super-detailed premium models (from Hornby). Maybe they should just stick to Railroad/toys and let the big(er) boy manufacturers (e.g. Bachmann, Accurascale/Cavalex etc.) take over the detailed stuff...

 

[Sun Chariot]

This review by Sam, touches on Railroad Plus upgrades from the old Lima tooling.

 

[trainswitheddy]

Why are the Pendolino carriages so expensive now? £55 for interior-less carriages seems a bit steep - they're not bad carriages but they're not exactly mind blowing.

 

[Sun Chariot]

Hornby's recent announcement includes OO models of Bulleid's Tavern Cars.
I have zero need for one - but I  do rather fancy it...

Hornby announce first part of their 2025 00 gauge range and includes Bulleid Tavern Car sets – A round up of new SR/BR(s) items

Hornby have today announced the first part of their forthcoming 00 gauge range for 2025. Hornby have advised that their announcements will focus on items that will be delivered within 12 months, so…

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Hornby "Tavern Car Sets" (2025) based on Mk 1's ????

. Hornby says these are Mark 1 based - I thought these were Bullied coaches, not Mark 1's - any ideas ? .

www.rmweb.co.uk

 

[4COR]

Hornby's recent announcement includes OO models of Bulleid's Tavern Cars.
I have zero need for one - but I  do rather fancy it...

Indeed - they do look good, but likewise, I'm not sure they were ever in service anywhere near my area of interest on the SR! Rule 1 isn't enough to get £130 out of me either - could get a Maunsell 4-set second hand for that price

 

[Iskra]

It’s good to see a number of modern units, some railroad and some full fat, plus some classic train sets in the new Hornby range. I think the modern stuff is the future, so happy to see a step away from excessive amounts of express steam.

 

[trainswitheddy]

Do we know many of the specs of the Azuma? I imagine it'll be a downgrade similar to the 395

 

[Sun Chariot]

Hornby's LNER Coronation "streamliner" coaches (R40223, R40224, R40225, R40226, R40227) have been released and they look superb; particularly the beavertail observation car. Do any of you have them?

 

[4COR]

Hornby's LNER Coronation "streamliner" coaches (R40223, R40224, R40225, R40226, R40227) have been released and they look superb; particularly he beavertail observation car. Do any of you have them?

No, but my Dad has the observation car - it is very nice indeed. A niche model perhaps (whereas some of us like the mundane), but nonetheless extremely impressive.

 

[Sun Chariot]

No, but my Dad has the observation car - it is very nice indeed. A niche model perhaps (whereas some of us like the mundane), but nonetheless extremely impressive.

Does Rule 1 get invoked and the beavertail visits southern metals?

 

[4COR]

Does Rule 1 get invoked and the beavertail visits southern metals?

There's not a lot to run on yet! (But absolutely not! )

(My dad is very much Rule 1 - and all power to him. Buy what you like!)

 

[trainswitheddy]

Not seen any discussion of this yet so will chime in - how has Hornby not noticed that the train set Azuma is far better value than the railroad 2 unit pack

 

[SCH117X]

Does Rule 1 get invoked and the beavertail visits southern metals?

There is a beavertail preserved which could go anywhere but the other one to that Hornby have currently released. Awaits the next release.

 

[Sun Chariot]

Not seen any discussion of this yet so will chime in - how has Hornby not noticed that the train set Azuma is far better value than the railroad 2 unit pack

Interesting Do you have links to both? Is it these ones?

R1288M "Junior" range 3-carriage train set, pre-order price £179.99

R1288M LNER Azuma High Speed Train Set

R1288M, LNER Azuma High Speed Train Set, Hornby, Train Sets, 1:76 Scale 00 Gauge, OO

uk.hornby.com

I can't find a 2-carriage pack.

R40350 4-carriage pack. £289.99

R40350 LNER, Class 801/2 Coach Pack - Era 11

R40350, LNER, Class 801/2 Coach Pack - Era 11, Hornby, Coaches & Coach Packs, 1:76 Scale 00 Gauge, OO

uk.hornby.com

Thanks

 

[trainswitheddy]

Interesting Do you have links to both? Is it these ones?

R1288M "Junior" range 3-carriage train set, pre-order price £179.99

R1288M LNER Azuma High Speed Train Set

R1288M, LNER Azuma High Speed Train Set, Hornby, Train Sets, 1:76 Scale 00 Gauge, OO

uk.hornby.com

I can't find a 2-carriage pack.

R40350 4-carriage pack. £289.99

R40350 LNER, Class 801/2 Coach Pack - Era 11

R40350, LNER, Class 801/2 Coach Pack - Era 11, Hornby, Coaches & Coach Packs, 1:76 Scale 00 Gauge, OO

uk.hornby.com

Thanks

R30449 RailRoad: LNER - Class 800 - 800201 - Train Pack

R30449, RailRoad: LNER - Class 800 - 800201 - Train Pack, Hornby, Train Packs, 1:76 Scale 00 Gauge, OO

uk.hornby.com

Apologies, I suppose 2 unit pack is a bit misleading. I should have said the driving ends, alas

£30 difference between the two yet the carriages are £34.99 each - assuming the train set comes with track and controller so almost makes you wonder why they bothered. Numbers between the two are the same iirc too.

 

[Sun Chariot]

The 2 driving cars pack states it's new tooling. I guess the train set uses the older tooling.

 

[trainswitheddy]

The 2 driving cars pack states it's new tooling. I guess the train set uses the older tooling.

If it's the older tooling then it's probably even better value if its the main range tooling
We will have to see closer to the date - almost definitely going for the train set version tho

 

[Ted633]

The 2 driving cars pack states it's new tooling. I guess the train set uses the older tooling.

Train set will also be the new railroad tooling. Train sets are generally good value anyway so it's not surprising.

 

[4COR]

Does Rule 1 get invoked and the beavertail visits southern metals?

Popped in last night and took a couple of pics. It has tail lights and interior lights as standard (with keepalive capacitor built in).

(Images of Hornby Beavertail observation carriage)

 

[GatwickDepress]

Popped in last night and took a couple of pics. It has tail lights and interior lights as standard (with keepalive capacitor built in).

(Images of Hornby Beavertail observation carriage)

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The silver linings and the patterns on the chairs are absolutely stunning. Also impressed it has working tail lamps out of the box.

When Hornby go all in, they go all in.

 

[Sun Chariot]

Popped in last night and took a couple of pics. It has tail lights and interior lights as standard (with keepalive capacitor built in).

(Images of Hornby Beavertail observation carriage)

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That finish is stunning, G..

The silver linings and the patterns on the chairs are absolutely stunning.

I totally agree, that is on par with Rapido's dynamometer car in my opinion.

 

[Sun Chariot]

In this video, we see a first glimpse of Bachmann's class 74 'HA' in 4mm; as well as the first batch of class 69, with four examples due for release 2025 Q3-4. The new tooled, high-spec class 08/09 looks tasty too.