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Thanks for the updates.
I never said anything about corruption, that is your interpretation.Why do you think there is a corruption of the name Network Rail?
That’s not the first, and it won’t be the last project/works/job where the completion is repeatedly delayed due to errors…
I mean that some use “Notwork Fail”.I never said anything about corruption, that is your interpretation.
Why do you think there is a corruption of the name Network Rail?
That’s not the first, and it won’t be the last project/works/job where the completion is repeatedly delayed due to errors…
Hello,
We're getting in touch to provide an update on the renewal of the bridge near you.
Following the results of the quality control checks undertaken, we have a quality issue with the concrete that was recently been poured in readiness for the new bridge deck. Due to safety reasons, we will need to remove the concrete and steelwork and replace it with new ones.
This will mean that the crane lifts will no longer take place as planned on the 22 and 29 of July. We're reviewing the programme and will let you know once the revised dates have been finalised.
This will also mean that we no longer require a full road closure that was due to be in place tomorrow and on the 27 July.
Work to break out the concrete and steel will take place this weekend, both during the day and night on Saturday and also during the day on Sunday. The equipment required to remove the concrete and steelwork will be noisy and we want to say sorry for any disturbance this may cause you.
Thank you for your understanding and support while we are working near you.
I think it’s quite rare for a concrete mix on a project like this to fail, (unless they’re very good at covering up previous instances). AIUI there’s a few samples of the mix taken from each delivery truck, and put in standard size moulds and allowed to cure before being tested on a machine?Opps, that’s a bit of a big error! Removal of reinforced concrete will definitely be noisy.
I don’t know how they test the quality at the time of construction. But yes, quality checks are supposed to take place before the batch of concrete is used. Also, there is a maximum time between each delivery, or else the whole pour will be considered a failure.I think it’s quite rare for a concrete mix on a project like this to fail, (unless they’re very good at covering up previous instances). AIUI there’s a few samples of the mix taken from each delivery truck, and put in standard size moulds and allowed to cure before being tested on a machine?
I don’t know how they test the quality at the time of construction.
Thanks for the extra detail. That bit I’ve bolded was what someone explained to me quite a while ago, possibly 20 years back, it’s probably the only bit I remembered…Workability is normally tested on site, on a sample from each truckload before it's placed (a slump test). That provides an immediate result but doesn't necessarily correlate with compressive strength. That's tested by crushing 150mm cubes made on site but cured in a laboratory. Tests are normally done at 7 and 28 days, with the 28 day result being the critical one. In cases where early results are needed, extra cubes may be made and tested at 3 days to give an early indication. If there's a suspicion of an error, the structure itself can be tested using an impact test (Schmidt hammer).
In 15 years of building concrete bridges I only recall once having to demolish part of a structure (a footbridge column) because the wrong concrete had been supplied and not spotted at the time of pouring. There was no doubt that it was wrong, the demolition was quite easy and left the reinforcement cage undamaged (it was reused).
One of my early jobs as a site engineer was helping out in the on-site testing lab (for soils and site-batched concrete). I made and crushed plenty of cubes in 18 months! On later jobs concrete was normally supplied by ready-mix companies who also did the testing.Thanks for the extra detail. That bit I’ve bolded was what someone explained to me quite a while ago, possibly 20 years back, it’s probably the only bit I remembered…
It is not just poured on site concrete that can give problems. On a local road project (A602), some prefabricated concrete bridge beams were installed, then a concrete deck started over them, before it was determined that the beams were defective and the whole lot would need to be replaced.In 15 years of building concrete bridges I only recall once having to demolish part of a structure (a footbridge column) because the wrong concrete had been supplied and not spotted at the time of pouring. There was no doubt that it was wrong, the demolition was quite easy and left the reinforcement cage undamaged (it was reused).
Is the work not being done by a contractor? I imagine there will be a fairly frosty meeting between NR and the management at the contractor, because NR will be even less impressed than the local residents.This is turning into a bit of a saga - and (to put it mildly) not a flattering one for Network Rail...
Heavens. That’s a lot of rework - though better finding out now than even later. I’m guessing someone’s head is going to roll…Sunday 23rd July work has continued with demolition of new (wrong quality) concrete, which has been loaded into a rollalong skip, and all the rebar heaped into piles, as the rebar all looks mangled I assume it will all need replacing before the concrete formers can go back.
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Contractor is Octavius (which used to be called Osborne)Is the work not being done by a contractor? I imagine there will be a fairly frosty meeting between NR and the management at the contractor, because NR will be even less impressed than the local residents.
Hello,
We wrote to you last week to give the disappointing news that we had encountered an issue with a concrete pour that had taken place.
Following the work to remove concrete and steel last weekend. We're now in a place to provide a further update on the programme.
With the setback, the road at the bridge will now be closed until the end of November. We know this must be frustrating to hear and we're sorry for any inconvenience this will cause.
Last weekend, work progressed very well. To help us further, We'll be on site this weekend to complete further work that is needed for the crane lifts. These are now planned for the weekends of 12 - 14 and 19 - 21 August.
Thank you for your understanding and support while we are working near you.
Let’s hope they get the correct concrete this time
During the upcoming work between Saturday night and Wednesday morning, we must have clear access for crane operations which are crucial to the installation of the new bridge. The placement of the new steel structure and pre-cast deck elements will take place during these shifts.
We appreciate your ongoing patience for any disruption caused here and are grateful for your cooperation to allow us to temporarily suspend the drop-off areas while we operate cranes in the area.
From the concrete base, it looks like only three beams are going in. Is that correct??Some new photos, Monday 14th August.
Concreting was done (for second time) last Friday. The wood shuttering has now been removed one side and three plates for deck beams now visible. Looks like preparing to cast the wall. Presumably will do other abutment tomorrow or Wednesday.
Network Rail issued local update end of last week that crane will start week later (Saturday evening 19th) and stay 4-5 days.
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Network Rail will temporarily extend the length of road that is closed temporarily whilst new bridge is installed from Saturday evening and subsequent few nights.
4 new photos evening of Saturday 19th Aug
The wooden formers have been removed where girders need to go, but not yet cleared other side of headway
Sunday 20th August
New bridge beams going in
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