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Abellio Greater Anglia Class 755s (Regional Trains)

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Technical problems with the Stadler Flirt EMUs delivered for GoAhead’s initial Stuttgarter Netze contracts, which commenced in June, led to service disruptions and negative publicity for the new operator.

In light of this, GoAhead decided not to introduce the new Flirt3 XL trains on the Stuttgart – Nuremberg route immediately, and will instead deploy locomotive-hauled trains made up of old German Rail (DB) coaches and a variety of electric locomotives including relatively modern class 185.5 Traxx units and older former DB locomotives.

GoAhead Germany confirmed to IRJ that it had agreed contracts with Wedler Franz Logistik (WFL), TRI Train Rental and Centralbahn to use their trains provisionally until March 2020 while the Flirt3 XL fleet is fully commissioned.

As well as RE 90 Stuttgart – Nuremberg, GoAhead is set to begin operating another semi-fast regional express services, RE8 Stuttgart – Würzburg, along with the slower RB16 Stuttgart – Ulm regional service.

The Flirt3 XL trains ordered for RE90 services have longer car bodies than the rest of the GoAhead Flirt fleet. Each 67.6m-long three-car train can seat 210 passengers compared with 165 passengers in a standard three-car Flirt3.

Stadler confirmed to IRJ that all 11 of the Flirt3 XL EMUs have been delivered and are approved for use. Stadler says it was the customer’s decision not to use the new fleet immediately but to instead undertake an intensive period of testing and commissioning.

GoAhead will use fully-commissioned Flirts on the RE8/RB16 routes, but will continue to hire two double-deck push-pull trains previously operated by DB Regio on the Stuttgart to Karlsruhe IRE 1 route – as they have since June – until April, resulting in a delay to the planned extension of IRE 1 services from Stuttgart to Aalen.
 
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That's actually quite a good FAQ page.

I'd say it's excellent. Whilst the Comms team have written it to try to make it accessible to the public, the messages are clearly coming from engineers, and that it's a systems engineering issue.

What I'm inferring is that the new trains have met all relevant NR requirements, this is why nobody in the know seems to be saying that Stadler are solely responsible. However, perhaps *how* they've met them, coupled with leaf fall and how NR systems meet NR requirements has created a track/train/leaf system that has unacceptable emergent properties.

Just trying to throw all the brown stuff only at BR/GA/Stadler seems pretty unhelpful.
 

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I'd say it's excellent. Whilst the Comms team have written it to try to make it accessible to the public, the messages are clearly coming from engineers, and that it's a systems engineering issue.

What I'm inferring is that the new trains have met all relevant NR requirements, this is why nobody in the know seems to be saying that Stadler are solely responsible. However, perhaps *how* they've met them, coupled with leaf fall and how NR systems meet NR requirements has created a track/train/leaf system that has unacceptable emergent properties.

Just trying to throw all the brown stuff only at BR/GA/Stadler seems pretty unhelpful.
I'd say it's excellent. Whilst the Comms team have written it to try to make it accessible to the public, the messages are clearly coming from engineers, and that it's a systems engineering issue.

What I'm inferring is that the new trains have met all relevant NR requirements, this is why nobody in the know seems to be saying that Stadler are solely responsible. However, perhaps *how* they've met them, coupled with leaf fall and how NR systems meet NR requirements has created a track/train/leaf system that has unacceptable emergent properties.

Just trying to throw all the brown stuff only at BR/GA/Stadler seems pretty unhelpful.


Maybe they need to get together with German / Dutch and Italian Railways, seems a common denominator here ! The only line that has real 755 issues is Cromer, not sure of excuses for the others
 

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Still a lengthy list of rural cancellations this morning. The 09:17, 10:17 and 11:17 Ipswich - Lowestoft services all cancelled due to "signalling problems".

I hope that a shortage of units will not be communicated as signalling problems.
 

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All these complaints, maybe a 755 named "Mrs Richards" is in order.
Bring back the 37's short set for a while,that's what I say. :)
 

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Still a lengthy list of rural cancellations this morning. The 09:17, 10:17 and 11:17 Ipswich - Lowestoft services all cancelled due to "signalling problems".

I hope that a shortage of units will not be communicated as signalling problems.

No, it is purely down to unit shortages, not enough to cover. think I saw they are fuelling 2 x 755 at the Point to fill a few gaps later

Felixstowe up and running from 0958, after a unit ran up from Crown Point to form the service. No Peterboro's no units.
 

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Technical problems with the Stadler Flirt EMUs delivered for GoAhead’s initial Stuttgarter Netze contracts, which commenced in June, led to service disruptions and negative publicity for the new operator.

In light of this, GoAhead decided not to introduce the new Flirt3 XL trains on the Stuttgart – Nuremberg route immediately, and will instead deploy locomotive-hauled trains made up of old German Rail (DB) coaches and a variety of electric locomotives including relatively modern class 185.5 Traxx units and older former DB locomotives.

GoAhead Germany confirmed to IRJ that it had agreed contracts with Wedler Franz Logistik (WFL), TRI Train Rental and Centralbahn to use their trains provisionally until March 2020 while the Flirt3 XL fleet is fully commissioned.

As well as RE 90 Stuttgart – Nuremberg, GoAhead is set to begin operating another semi-fast regional express services, RE8 Stuttgart – Würzburg, along with the slower RB16 Stuttgart – Ulm regional service.

The Flirt3 XL trains ordered for RE90 services have longer car bodies than the rest of the GoAhead Flirt fleet. Each 67.6m-long three-car train can seat 210 passengers compared with 165 passengers in a standard three-car Flirt3.

Stadler confirmed to IRJ that all 11 of the Flirt3 XL EMUs have been delivered and are approved for use. Stadler says it was the customer’s decision not to use the new fleet immediately but to instead undertake an intensive period of testing and commissioning.

GoAhead will use fully-commissioned Flirts on the RE8/RB16 routes, but will continue to hire two double-deck push-pull trains previously operated by DB Regio on the Stuttgart to Karlsruhe IRE 1 route – as they have since June – until April, resulting in a delay to the planned extension of IRE 1 services from Stuttgart to Aalen.
Ah, selective highlighting. You forgot to include the information from Stadler.
 

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It's all GO for the new through Norwich-Stansted service from tomorrow. Electric mode is authorised throughout south of Ely.
 

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It's all GO for the new through Norwich-Stansted service from tomorrow. Electric mode is authorised throughout south of Ely.
Is it authorised Monday? I thought the lights were going to go out if there were flirts as well as electro stars between Milton and Ely?
 

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Is it authorised Monday? I thought the lights were going to go out if there were flirts as well as electro stars between Milton and Ely?
Authorised from tomorrow morning. We will have to see if the power reduces.
 

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755s as booked. Suppose being high profile they will ensure enough units are diagrammed with no doubt a standby too.

Indeed, no doubt it will be given a high priority than the long suffering local lines.

Some would argue it would be better they focus on providing a good service on existing routes before focusing on new ones, but who cares about long suffering passengers when there is good PR to chase.
 

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Looking at the Cromer line today, not sure why it's 2 hourly, the time loss is only about 8 to 10 mins max
 

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Sunday's a softer start, anyway, with less GN services north of Cambridge. Especially as you don't get the weird bit of Saturday morning where a xx12 2Tyy service starting at Ely is almost immediately followed by a matching xx17 1Tyy service from Kings Lynn, with the two being joined at Cambridge- happens at 10xx and 11xx
 

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Looking at the Cromer line today, not sure why it's 2 hourly, the time loss is only about 8 to 10 mins max

Lack of units I should think is the problem here.

Be even worse when some are being used on the Stansted route unless they manage to get a few more that haven't been in service, cleared for service in the next few days.
 

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Looking at the Cromer line today, not sure why it's 2 hourly, the time loss is only about 8 to 10 mins max
I did wonder that especially as they are continuing with RR for West Runton & Sheringham. I would imagine availability has much to do with it. Maybe some more Stadlers will be accepted now after the tortureos week we have all just endured.
 

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Looking at the Cromer line today, not sure why it's 2 hourly, the time loss is only about 8 to 10 mins max
They tried consecutive services yesterday and the delays went to 20 mins due to having to wait for the single line at N Walsham. Suspect it will have to be 2 hourly until the ESRs can be lifted :(
 

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Ah, selective highlighting. You forgot to include the information from Stadler.
They might be delivered and approved, but completely unreliable as regards running a service as per GA.
 

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They might be delivered and approved, but completely unreliable as regards running a service as per GA.
Of course the operators always fess up when they’re at fault and don’t just blame somebody else. As per GA.
 

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I did wonder that especially as they are continuing with RR for West Runton & Sheringham. I would imagine availability has much to do with it. Maybe some more Stadlers will be accepted now after the tortureos week we have all just endured.

But of course it is still under the catch all 'Signalling Problems'
 

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But of course it is still under the catch all 'Signalling Problems'

On the platform screens it's worded a little different "Due to a fault with the signalling system." which seems to imply the problem is with the NR signalling system itself, rather than signalling in general.
 

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On the platform screens it's worded a little different "Due to a fault with the signalling system." which seems to imply the problem is with the NR signalling system itself, rather than signalling in general.
Which is a bit of a porky, as it has been, it is more like no units available, (with various bits and 'not wheels'! not working :) )
 

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