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Abellio Greater Anglia Class 755s (Regional Trains)

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dk1

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Having given flack about the 755 and their introduction I thought that offering a bit of praise might be a good thing.

The Norwich - Yarmouth line opened today after a 16 day possession with new signalling and new automatic level crossings. All this meant that GA needed more 755's than they have for a couple of weeks and there were obviously possibilities of problems, but it appears to have all worked. Well done GA, Raitrack & everyone involved.

Here's hoping that the reopening of the Lowestoft lines next Monday, with the demand for even more 755's, works as well.
1136 Yarmouth and now 1706 cancelled to due to unit issues :(
 

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Having given flack about the 755 and their introduction I thought that offering a bit of praise might be a good thing.

The Norwich - Yarmouth line opened today after a 16 day possession with new signalling and new automatic level crossings. All this meant that GA needed more 755's than they have for a couple of weeks and there were obviously possibilities of problems, but it appears to have all worked. Well done GA, Raitrack & everyone involved.

Here's hoping that the reopening of the Lowestoft lines next Monday, with the demand for even more 755's, works as well.

Be careful what you wish for in addition to the Felixstowe branch suspension the 1600 IPS-PBO and return have been cancelled as have the 1706 NRW - GYM and 17:22 NRW-CBG and returns too. Stansted services have been curtailed at Cambridge for most of the day, though that might be due to signal problems earlier and lastly is only one 745 out as the 16:30 NRW-LST and 19:02 return are also cancelled?
 

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Be careful what you wish for in addition to the Felixstowe branch suspension the 1600 IPS-PBO and return have been cancelled as have the 1706 NRW - GYM and 17:22 NRW-CBG and returns too. Stansted services have been curtailed at Cambridge for most of the day, though that might be due to signal problems earlier and lastly is only one 745 out as the 16:30 NRW-LST and 19:02 return are also cancelled?
That was 745007. 745010 is out working both the 1230 and 1730 ex Norwich today.
 

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Are we forgetting a certain Boeing product, perchance? Or indeed the rather earlier de Havilland Comet?

A cancelled train is an annoyance, hitting the ground at 500mph is a bit more than that.

a train hitting a car on a level crossing, because the "systems" werent picking it up properly anymore, might be a bit more than an annoyance for all involved, fortunately it was only a nearly incident instead
 

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The 0540 Colchester to Peterborough was caped at Ely due to a 'train fault'. Not enough diesel again?
 

superjohn

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I actually got a ride on the 0750 from Harwich yesterday. Something to tell the grandkids!

Cancelled throughout today of course.
 

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How many 755s are awaiting entry into service?
There are a few sitting outside Cambridge with no permission for passenger service, plus two that are still in Switzerland. With more than 26 units to operate the current service, it doesn't look like there is a rush, more focus is being put into 745 admittance and acceptance. Someone correct me if wrong but there are about 29 authorized with two in CH and the other 7 still at Cambridge/MNR.
 

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How many 755s are awaiting entry into service?

This is the current state of play with the 755

Class 755

755/4

In service – 19
In UK, yet to enter service 4
Still to be delivered to UK - 1

401 In UK, yet to enter service
402 First Passenger service 30.11.19 – 0538 Norwich – Great Yarmouth
403 Still to be delivered to UK
404 First Passenger service 05.12.19 – 0525 Lowestoft to Ipswich
405 In UK, yet to enter service
406 In UK, yet to enter service

407 First Passenger service 26.01.20- 0905 Norwich – Lowestoft
408 In UK, yet to enter service
409 First Passenger service 02.09.19 - 1106 Norwich – Great Yarmouth
410 First Passenger service 29.07.19 - 0747 Lowestoft – Norwich
411 First Passenger service 22.11.19 - 1236 Norwich- Cambridge
412 First Passenger service 17.11.19 - 1838 Norwich -Cambridge
413 First Passenger service 30.08.19 - 0633 Norwich- Cambridge – (failed at Brandon on that service)
414 First Passenger service 02.10.19 - 0734 Norwich- Cambridge
415 First Passenger service 13.11.19 - 0755 Norwich - Lowestoft
416 First Passenger service 30.10.19 - 1440 Norwich – Great Yarmouth
417 First Passenger service 30.08.19 - 0747 Lowestoft – Norwich
418 First Passenger service 02.08.19 - 0747 Lowestoft – Norwich
419 First Passenger service 22.10.19 - 1236 Norwich- – Great Yarmouth
420 First Passenger service 08.11.19 - 0611 Norwich- – Great Yarmouth – failed later in day
421 First Passenger service 04.12.19 - 0553 Cromer - Norwich
422 First Passenger service 24.09.19 - 0633 Norwich- Cambridge – failed later in day
423 First Passenger service 28.11.19 - 1336 Norwich- – Great Yarmouth
424 First Passenger service 11.10.19 - 0542 Lowestoft - Norwich


755/3

In service – 12
In UK, yet to enter service –2

325 In UK, yet to enter service
326 First Passenger service 20.01.20 - 0614 Lowestoft – Ipswich
327 First Passenger service 16.12.19 - 18:55 Norwich- Cromer
328 First Passenger service 01.01.20 - 15:01 Norwich- Sheringham (Additional)
329 First Passenger service 15.01.20 – 1804 Norwich- Great Yarmouth
330 First Passenger service 28.01.20 – 13.58 Ipswich to Peterborough
331 First Passenger service 16.01.20 - 0614 Lowestoft – Ipswich
332 First Passenger service 20.12.19 - 0857 Ipswich – Felixstowe
333 First Passenger service 30.12.19 - 1736 Norwich – Great Yarmouth
334 First Passenger service 01.02.20 - 0707 Lowestoft – Ipswich
335 First Passenger service 01.01.20 - 1336 Norwich – Great Yarmouth
336 First Passenger service 28.11.19 - 0604 Ipswich -Felixstowe
337 First Passenger service 07.01.20 - 0821 Norwich – Great Yarmouth

338 In UK, yet to enter service
 

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How many required each day for the current timetable? Is the Peterboro service going hourly at some point?
 

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If I read it correctly it's 19 daily.

That sounds too low, bearing in mind the legacy fleet was 26 diesel units.

If they really only need 19 units out of 31 cleared for service and they are still cancelling the Felixstowe line due to lack of units then it speaks volumes about how poor the reliability of the units must be.

I honestly don't believe the reliability is that bad so up to 12 are out of service at once, so the PVR must be higher than 19.
 

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All been muddled at the moment due to the Wherry line blockades. Maybe 19 was last week before Yarmouth reopened. It's all getting rather confusing & the days just merge into one.
 

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Before the days of 37s, 68s and all sorts of other issues, the Crown Point DMU fleet was diagrammed:
153 4/5
156 8/9
170 (2 car) 4/4 (but with off peak maintenance diagrammed)
170 (3 car) 7/8

So that was a total of 23 diagrams from a fleet of 26.

The only significant timetable change since those days has been the extension of the Norwich to Cambridge service to Stansted Airport requiring a further 2 diagrams.

There is the well documented lower fuel range of a class 755, but don’t know whether that results in further diagrams while units go for a drink.
 

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So, has anyone said who is to blame ? Is it Stadler for providing below par units, or GA for not understanding them ?
 

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No comment. Far too much ££££ at stake :lol:
Which I understand :) after recent events surrounding such things, but the travelling public are, of course now fed up with 'unit fault' day in, day out with the new units, one would have thought someone, be it GA or Stadler ,DfT / ORR ...someone ... would have given some clue as to the problem(s)
 

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Before the days of 37s, 68s and all sorts of other issues, the Crown Point DMU fleet was diagrammed:
153 4/5
156 8/9
170 (2 car) 4/4 (but with off peak maintenance diagrammed)
170 (3 car) 7/8

So that was a total of 23 diagrams from a fleet of 26.

The only significant timetable change since those days has been the extension of the Norwich to Cambridge service to Stansted Airport requiring a further 2 diagrams.

There is the well documented lower fuel range of a class 755, but don’t know whether that results in further diagrams while units go for a drink.

Report that today a 755 was at Beccles with the engine shut down and train turned round short as unit was short of fuel.

Question are they really shorrt of fuel and if so why or are the gauges just not accurate, Are the gauges on the tanks or electronically in the cab ?
 

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