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Wonder how long it takes to fuel a unit? With them having to be fuelled daily the Crown Point fuel pad will be very busy if things stay as they are today on that front.
The new sidings cannot be used. They have no method of working agreement.I expected/hoped to see some of these on my trip to Norwich today. I expected they'd be stables in the new sidings at Crown Point, but they were empty. Must be tucked up out of sight somewhere.
I expected/hoped to see some of these on my trip to Norwich today. I expected they'd be stables in the new sidings at Crown Point, but they were empty. Must be tucked up out of sight somewhere.
The new sidings cannot be used. They have no method of working agreement.
Absolutely. There has to be a comprehensive safe system of working put in place & agreed.Is that a union thing? Do they really have a veto on some new sidings in an existing depot being brought into use?
The new sidings cannot be used. They have no method of working agreement.
Why has there no such agreement, seems a little odd if the tracks have been laid already?
Nothing really to do with unions in this case I'd have thought, it's just standard health & safety. Unfortunately, whether or not you agree with their stance on a given issue, there is so much going on with unions lately that negatively affects passengers, it leads people to the assumption that anything procedural that goes wrong (i.e. not technical issues with infrastructure or rolling stock) is the fault of unions. The neverending industrial action over DOO in the affected areas, coupled with still fairly regular action on the tube gives the unions pretty bad press and as such, when matters like this arise, it's all too common for people to simply assume it's a union matter, because quite often it is. For context only (as I wouldn't want to start yet another unions/DOO debate) I'm not that often on the side of the union with these matters as I think their responses can be rather disproportionate, but I'll stick up for them here. You don't need a union to tell you that operating a new stretch of track, even in a depot, without appropriate H&S paperwork is a bad idea.Why do people automatically jump to conclusions and automatically believe it’s unions being militant etc. There needs to be a yard safety plan agreed with safe walking routes agreed etc etc. This is all to do with safe methods of working for liability insurance etc etc. You can’t just slap down a bit of track and just say “use that”. If anyone is killed or injured then it needs to be established if persons involved were following the agreed safe method of working.
Nothing really to do with unions in this case I'd have thought, it's just standard health & safety
Why? How do you know if the walking routes have been assessed? How do you know if the yard safety plan required for insurance purposes has been drawn up?
They are indeed stabled behind the shed, on the roads on the south-eastern side of the depot. I drove a vehicle into the depot a few months ago and had a peak around. One of Crown Point’s biggest constraints is that the main road access is round the south side of the ATB Laurence Scott factory, along the old Hardy Road, and under the railway where it narrows to a single track over the river. There’s a height restriction here, so HGVs and trucks delivering parts to the stores often have to unload here onto fork lifts.
The other way in is via a level crossing at the bottom of Cremorne Lane on the Line towards Yarmouth, which they don’t tend to use unless absolutely necessary.
Still ongoing works everyday with an isolation, so not ready to be handed over just yet New Trains, New Track, Guaging wil also bee checked of courseWhy has there no such agreement, seems a little odd if the tracks have been laid already?
Still ongoing works everyday with an isolation, so not ready to be handed over just yet New Trains, New Track, Guaging wil also bee checked of course
A couple of Norwich in 90 runs appear to be added to the new timetable in May .
And another pair in the evening:A couple of Norwich in 90 runs appear to be added to the new timetable in May .
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/G08265/2019/05/25/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/G08263/2019/05/25/advanced
In the opposite direction, they are shown as Class 158 - but will probably be using a Class 170 timing load, as they show 100mph. Both show as DMU(E) in downstream systems.Using the links just posted, I clicked on Norwich, then on the 20.34 arrival from Cambridge; very surprised to see it timed for a class 317!
Anyone know if class 317 timings are being used for bi-modes?
And another pair in the evening:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/G08269/2019/05/25/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/G08267/2019/05/25/advanced
In all cases, a normal stopping pattern train is shown following headway behind.
Whilst they don't have jumper cable "ladders", as found on IEP's, they do have some heavy duty jumper cables and various other bits and pieces, giving them a high degree of climbability for anyone so inclined. Obviously, this is UK-specific problem...Not seen any of the new trains but I hope they don't have intercoach jumpers like on the LNER class 800s which one of the various safety Talibans have prevented from entering service.
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Shown as standard class only; is that correct?